[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by ASAP

I dont understand the last point... everything does evolve... but for the better? Absolutely not... garbage will always be garbage. There will have to be a style shift coming up or its over. Remember, Gucci Gang was one of the top songs on spotify last year...

No but your perspective of what is good is warped by your age. I'm older. You probably also think older athletes were more badass like jim brown and other things in general.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

I like Gods Plan. The way he puts haters on blast for wishin' and wishin bad things but still keeping it positive with the mppsk sic video and giving God the credit.

Yeah I think it's a great song. Most of his music has a similar sound so I suppose if you like it then you'll like all his work, if not then you'll hate it.

I also appreciate that he doesn't dress or act like a thug like most rappers from the '00s. He's pretty well spoken and has a good sense of style. His work with Canada Goose and the Toronto Raptors is pretty impressive.

Plus the "Drake the type of *****" jokes are killer.

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Yeah I think it's a great song. Most of his music has a similar sound so I suppose if you like it then you'll like all his work, if not then you'll hate it.

I also appreciate that he doesn't dress or act like a thug like most rappers from the '00s. He's pretty well spoken and has a good sense of style. His work with Canada Goose and the Toronto Raptors is pretty impressive.

Plus the "Drake the type of *****" jokes are killer.

lol not sure why my post says mppsk in it, must be some wierd spell correct error that cropped up, not sure exactly what I was trying to say there but it wasn't that. It's true Drake has that sound that makes alot of his songs sound similar but I like it.

[last1left]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

Shout out to the OGs

These guy's were the best RIP BIG and PAC

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by nars3000

Not sure, I have Spotify Premium, but I never use their charts as a reference to figure out what's good. Perhaps this is the reason why you feel a certain way about the genre if you find yourself limited to Spotify's database.

Here are two covers of Gucci Gang that may make you think twice about Hip-Hop being dead:

Lucas Joyner

TheRealAK

Furthermore on Drake, he basically paved the way for new school artists like Khalid, Swae Lee, French, and etc on how it's cool to sing and rap at the same time. But if you want to take it back further, no one thought of Bone Thugs as being soft back when they were singing and rapping in the 90s. Everyone was digging their style despite the fact that no one understood what they were saying in real time.

Here's an interesting question: If you were stranded on an island and you could pick just 1 Hip-Hop artist to listen to forever, who would you pick?

With all due respect to the late Tupac (hometown legend) and BIG, I would pick Drake over them easily. Heck, I might even go with 90s NAS (iLLMatic, Nastradamus, Stillmatic) over Tupac, but that's just me.

Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of drakes songs and his style... but at the same time, his style makes it difficult to compare him to any of the serious lyricists of the past... he really is more like a pop rapper to me.

I think if I had to choose one rapper to listen to... it would probably be early 2000s Nas... not illmatic Nas but Stillmatic / Gods son Nas. He had a perfect mix of credibility and mass appeal there.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

No but your perspective of what is good is warped by your age. I'm older. You probably also think older athletes were more badass like jim brown and other things in general.

Well, here is an interesting perspective... I am 30 but I think the music of yesterday was better however modern cars are much more interesting to me. When people argue cars no longer have feelin... i find that to be a total misnomer.

I mean do you think Bron is better than MJ?

[1MOREMOD]

Just different. It's much harder to be as dominant as it was in yesteryear because there is so much specialization and competition. Now tons of people working towards that pinnacle. My feeling is in the past you basically had to show up and wanna do it and could be a pro athlete.

Bron probably is better but the level of play around him makes it look less possibly.

[EALm4]

I wanna know how the hell this guy (Post Malone) became "famous "

[kprocivic]

Originally Posted by EALm4

I wanna know how the hell this guy (Post Malone) became "famous "

he has a following. Like I said if you can create a following on social media you can break through.

[Never_Enough]

This crap today is not rap.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by EALm4

I wanna know how the hell this guy (Post Malone) became "famous "

Because, sadly, most of society is dumber than he is. I need to put on some Beastie Boys now to cleanse myself.

[FriedPiston]

Originally Posted by EALm4

I wanna know how the hell this guy (Post Malone) became "famous "

If serious, record label and catchy verses. Post Malone broke ground with White Iverson, where he strategically curated the lyrics based on NBA culture without having any knowledge of current players just a few months prior to writing the song. He said himself that he doesn't even play basketball, but yet he somehow knew that Hip-Hop and basketball go together like peanut butter and jelly. So it was a matter of dropping a few household names like Iverson, Jordan, KD, Harden, and AD to get music listeners hooked to the song. The rest was history after that...

I recall being in LA at the time the song first got air play on Power 106, and it was pretty much an instant hit with people playing the song non-stop. No one even knew how he looked back then, but I guess that's the power of music. It lets you dress/look however way you want, and people seem to be willing to accept your image as long as you make good/decent music.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by nars3000

If serious, record label and catchy verses. Post Malone broke ground with White Iverson, where he strategically curated the lyrics based on NBA culture without having any knowledge of current players just a few months prior to writing the song. He said himself that he doesn't even play basketball, but yet he somehow knew that Hip-Hop and basketball go together like peanut butter and jelly. So it was a matter of dropping a few household names like Iverson, Jordan, KD, Harden, and AD to get music listeners hooked to the song. The rest was history after that...

I recall being in LA at the time the song first got air play on Power 106, and it was pretty much an instant hit with people playing the song non-stop. No one even knew how he looked back then, but I guess that's the power of music. It lets you dress/look however way you want, and people seem to be willing to accept your image as long as you make good/decent music.

That's called marketing & then see my post above. People are mindless lemmings.

[EALm4]

Originally Posted by nars3000

It lets you dress/look however way you want, and people seem to be willing to accept your image as long as you make good/decent music.

That's for damn sure. Wonder if any relation to The Fat Jewish lol
They need to collab

[FriedPiston]

Originally Posted by EALm4

That's for damn sure. Wonder if any relation to The Fat Jewish lol
They need to collab

LOL

Word on the street is he swings the other way.

[hooligan_G01]

Originally Posted by nars3000

NAS said Hip-Hop is dead, but that was back in 2006. I don't think Chance, Kung-fu Kenny, Drake, and many up-and-coming artists like Joyner Lucas and 16-year old TheRealAK would agree, though.

Rap/Hip-Hop will be around for a while, some people just have to learn how to adapt to new styles.

I like Chance, don't know Kung-fu Kenny, but Drake is straight garbage.

[hooligan_G01]

Originally Posted by nars3000

Not sure, I have Spotify Premium, but I never use their charts as a reference to figure out what's good. Perhaps this is the reason why you feel a certain way about the genre if you find yourself limited to Spotify's database.

Here are two covers of Gucci Gang that may make you think twice about Hip-Hop being dead:

Lucas Joyner

TheRealAK

Furthermore on Drake, he basically paved the way for new school artists like Khalid, Swae Lee, French, and etc on how it's cool to sing and rap at the same time. But if you want to take it back further, no one thought of Bone Thugs as being soft back when they were singing and rapping in the 90s. Everyone was digging their style despite the fact that no one understood what they were saying in real time.

Here's an interesting question: If you were stranded on an island and you could pick just 1 Hip-Hop artist to listen to forever, who would you pick?

With all due respect to the late Tupac (hometown legend) and BIG, I would pick Drake over them easily. Heck, I might even go with 90s NAS (iLLMatic, Nastradamus, Stillmatic) over Tupac, but that's just me.

Bone Thugs was a flash in the pan, though. No one talks about them when they're talking about superstars.

NAS would be a solid desert island pick. He put out a lot of clunkers to go along with his amazing stuff, though. Not sure who I'd pick, but it wouldn't be Tupac. If I pick Wu Tang, do I get all their solo and associated acts, too? If so, Wu Tang.

[hooligan_G01]

Originally Posted by ASAP

...I mean do you think Bron is better than MJ?

Define "better", but in general? No way, and it's not even close.

Can LeBron do things that Jordan simply couldn't do? Yes - but that doesn't equate to "better" in my book.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by hooligan_clt

I like Chance, don't know Kung-fu Kenny, but Drake is straight garbage.

kung fu kenny is kendrick lamar

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

That's called marketing & then see my post above. People are mindless lemmings.

thats what people dont catch onto... its called marketing, some people are masters in that craft... quality or talent does not equate to anything if u r the king of marketing... the broad from dr phil has 12 mil instagram followers and made a song lol

[rad doc]

"No promotion for foreign car" , then gets in Ferrari California. Ok!! So song lyrics are meaningless and has bad taste in cars!

[hooligan_G01]

Originally Posted by ASAP

kung fu kenny is kendrick lamar

He's one of the few bright spots when it comes to new rappers.