[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DreamTime

I was so excited when I got the magazine in the mail last week, I literally walked in and sat down on my couch to read the whole story. It did not disappoint. Cool story and I am really happy for those guys, plus it is just fascinating to learn about the beginnings of BMW racing.

Late 30's racing made (and should still inspire) the core of BMW's DNA. Inline-6 engine, beautiful lightweight bodies that look like nothing else but a BMW, and total racing domination (for its class). Now, transpose this to today's context and... Not long ago in the 70's with the 3.0 CSL and 80's withe the E30 M3 (ok it was not an inline-6), BMW still had it. Today I'm afraid for the brand...

[eleniki]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

February 2 update: Original article online: http://autoweek.com/article/car-life...ight-barn-find


NOTE: I suggest you take the time to read the history of the 328 at the bottom of my thread. You will realise how influential this car is for BMW to this day, from the inline-6 engine, to the kidney grill etc...

An acquaintance of mine who is an authority in vintage car restoration (think Pebble Beach best of show winners) told me about this very special car a few days ago and that it would be making the news soon...

Then the amazing story broke cover in the January 22nd printed/electronic edition of Autoweek magazine!


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This special BMW is a hybrid with a very rare BMW 328 lightweight racing chassis and a postwar Veritas body. The monetary valuable part is the racing chassis. To give you an example, the subsequent chassis number received a high bid of 4.3 million euros at an auction in Monaco in 2010, yet the owner decided to pass. Of course, the car we're talking about is nowhere in the same state as the 4-million plus 328, but it is still very valuable being so rare and with a great racing history.

This Veritas/BMW 328 was found by 2 car enthusiasts from Iowa: Dereck Freshour and Heath Rodney. When they bought the car from neighbouring farmer, they thought it was a postwar Veritas, worth a fraction of a 328, even though some Veritas were built using 328 parts (which their car obviously was). Yet, underneath the relatively mundane body lied a very special chassis. Chassis #85031 is a rare BMW 328 lightweight racing chassis that everybody thought was lost.

A short recap. The BMW 328 is probably the most significant car for BMW as it was the model that first established the Bavarian as a maker of racing and winning sports cars. And, of course it introduced the now legendary BMW inline-6 engine. The 328 were dominant in the 2-litre class right before WWII with wins at Le Mans, The Mille Miglia, the Nurburgring... That's why they now are amongst the most valuables of all classic BMW's.

And the racing lightweight versions are even more rare and valuable. Out of the 434 328's produced by BMW between 1936 and 1940, only 61 were made to lightweight specs with a 70% more powerful engine (from 80hp to 136), a close-ratio gearbox, a 100-litre racing tanks, bigger drum brakes, and, of course, a much lighter and more aerodynamic body.

Chassis 85031 was raced at the 1937 24hr of le Mans, almost right after it left the factory, where it got into an accident. Then it was shipped to England to enter the Tourist Trophy, where it was driven by racing royalty (literally) Prince Bira of Siam (Thailand) to 3rd overall and first in class. The next year, it came 3rd in class at the Mille Miglia where BMW swept the podium in the 2-litre class. After an unsuccessful run at the 1938 Tourist Trophy, the car was retired from racing by BMW. Then it's history became much less known, WWII not helping matters.


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The car became a Veritas after the war probably because the Americans forbid construction of new cars in Germany as a retribution of war. So the newly established company, started by former BMW employees, used old BMW chassis to build their cars from... Somehow chassis 85031, now a Veritas, found its way to the US, probably imported by a former GI as it often happened after the war and was used until around 1966 in Iowa. The car was stored in 1966, then bought by the farmer in late 1971 who thought of restoring it but never did and was finally acquired by Dereck and Heath.


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So how did they think they had something special in their hands, far from being vintage BMW specialists? By buying a magazine article about Veritas on Ebay! The article mentioned reclusive BMW expert Jim Proffitt and they relentlessly tried to get in touch with him. And their effort paid off. Jim helped them determine the provenance of the car thanks to the racing clues such as the large fuel tank and chassis number stamp with the golden 85031 number. They managed to get the chassis authenticated by BMW and have decided to invest in a restoration of this important car to racing 328 spec.

Now the million dollar question. How much is this important car worth? Well, probably less than 4.3 million euros, but more than a million dollars as the "regular" road 328's easily fetch above 500K...

I'm sure more news and pictures are to come in the next few months...

For more pics and the detailed story, please refer to the Autoweek article.

In conclusion, a couple of things I've learned from this amazing find:

1- There are still rare and historically important BMW's out there to be found.
2- You never know what you get when you buy a vintage car or a barnfind: do your homework and find out the history of the car and your relatively humble Veritas can become an ultra rare BMW racer!
3-Enjoy a ride of a lifetime in the research, the discovery and the restoration!


For those interested in the history of the 328, here's an article form Motorsport Magazine (vintage itself: from 1986)


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i'd sell my soul for this one!

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Late 30's racing made (and should still inspire) the core of BMW's DNA. Inline-6 engine, beautiful lightweight bodies that look like nothing else but a BMW, and total racing domination (for its class). Now, transpose this to today's context and... Not long ago in the 70's with the 3.0 CSL and 80's with the E30 M3 (ok it was not an inline-6), BMW still had it. Today I'm afraid for the brand...

Sorry for the late reply. Your words are so beautiful, thank you. If only you lived closer to me, I would buy you a beer or two just to talk to you more about BMW engines, as well as their history of racing. It's funny, because, I have become somewhat infatuated with finding an M3 that I can turn into my dedicated track car. I have, for obvious reasons, fallen in love with the E46, but I am torn (hilariously) between E36, E46, and E92 M3s...

I am good friends with a lot of people who work for BMW Manufacturing here in the US. They are engineers and leaders of new development, and they are helping to create, test, and perfect the BMWs of the next generation. As impressive as they are, and some of them really are --- I am constantly drawn to older BMWs. But I have to say... the longer that I am here... I feel like a certain pinnacle was reached with the E9x and the S65.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DreamTime

Sorry for the late reply. Your words are so beautiful, thank you. If only you lived closer to me, I would buy you a beer or two just to talk to you more about BMW engines, as well as their history of racing. It's funny, because, I have become somewhat infatuated with finding an M3 that I can turn into my dedicated track car. I have, for obvious reasons, fallen in love with the E46, but I am torn (hilariously) between E36, E46, and E92 M3s...

I am good friends with a lot of people who work for BMW Manufacturing here in the US. They are engineers and leaders of new development, and they are helping to create, test, and perfect the BMWs of the next generation. As impressive as they are, and some of them really are --- I am constantly drawn to older BMWs. But I have to say... the longer that I am here... I feel like a certain pinnacle was reached with the E9x and the S65.

Thanks for our kind words and would love to share a beer if I ever visit SC. let me know if you're travelling to AUS too ;-).

About M-based track cars, I think the e36 or e46 would be a great base. I'm afraid the e92 may be on the porky side even completely stripped. I've seen somewhere that the e36 offer the best value/performance equation and make great race cars...

I think you just pointed out the thing that is frustrating with BMW: they have a ton of good people working for them. It just seems that the top management is not so good anymore. In deciding to go mainstream and fill all the niches, they have diluted the brand tremendously. You can do SUV's and still maintain the prestige of a brand: just look at Porsche! They don't have ton of products, just the right ones.

And I'm not even talking about the Electric revolution. I was hopeful when BMW started their i business, but a stupid city car and a so-so supercar have squashed my hopes. Now they will be left in the dust when Porsche launches their Mission E later this year, which looks to become the gold standard for performance electric cars, even compared to Tesla.

I too am drawn to the older cars and at the same time I'm fascinated by what the electric cars bring to the table as far as packaging, design, technology etc... So why not have both ;-)

Cheers!

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Thanks for our kind words and would love to share a beer if I ever visit SC. let me know if you're travelling to AUS too ;-).

About M-based track cars, I think the e36 or e46 would be a great base. I'm afraid the e92 may be on the porky side even completely stripped. I've seen somewhere that the e36 offer the best value/performance equation and make great race cars...

Dang, lololol I do love the E9x generation, but that is a funny statement. I almost bought an E46 recently for my track car, but my mechanic talked me out of it because he though an E92 would be a better choice for me. The vast majority of my track friends suggest I get an E36. I am in love with the E46. So, this has proved to be a difficult choice for me lol.

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

I think you just pointed out the thing that is frustrating with BMW: they have a ton of good people working for them. It just seems that the top management is not so good anymore. In deciding to go mainstream and fill all the niches, they have diluted the brand tremendously. You can do SUV's and still maintain the prestige of a brand: just look at Porsche! They don't have ton of products, just the right ones.

Yes, I completely agree. I understand that as an auto manufacturer, you need to offer what the masses want if you want to survive. However, it does seem like BMW has lost a bit of the soul that makes it BMW. I think you have made a good point about Porsche. I feel like the takeaway from that would be - it is better to be great at a few things than mediocre at many things.

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

And I'm not even talking about the Electric revolution. I was hopeful when BMW started their i business, but a stupid city car and a so-so supercar have squashed my hopes. Now they will be left in the dust when Porsche launches their Mission E later this year, which looks to become the gold standard for performance electric cars, even compared to Tesla.

I too am drawn to the older cars and at the same time I'm fascinated by what the electric cars bring to the table as far as packaging, design, technology etc... So why not have both ;-)

Cheers!

You know, growing up in CA I developed an appreciation for electric cars from a young age. I remember seeing car charging stations at malls when i was a kid, way before it was even a thing anywhere else in the country. And, I adore Tesla. They make amazing cars. Electric cars are fascinating, yes, and they are the way of the future for sure. I just can't help myself when it comes to the sound, feel, and overall driving experience of a perfectly crafted combustion engine paired with rear wheel drive and a manual transmission. I'm a sucker for that stuff... I think you might be on to something though, having both is not a bad idea

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DreamTime

Dang, lololol I do love the E9x generation, but that is a funny statement. I almost bought an E46 recently for my track car, but my mechanic talked me out of it because he though an E92 would be a better choice for me. The vast majority of my track friends suggest I get an E36. I am in love with the E46. So, this has proved to be a difficult choice for me lol.



Yes, I completely agree. I understand that as an auto manufacturer, you need to offer what the masses want if you want to survive. However, it does seem like BMW has lost a bit of the soul that makes it BMW. I think you have made a good point about Porsche. I feel like the takeaway from that would be - it is better to be great at a few things than mediocre at many things.



You know, growing up in CA I developed an appreciation for electric cars from a young age. I remember seeing car charging stations at malls when i was a kid, way before it was even a thing anywhere else in the country. And, I adore Tesla. They make amazing cars. Electric cars are fascinating, yes, and they are the way of the future for sure. I just can't help myself when it comes to the sound, feel, and overall driving experience of a perfectly crafted combustion engine paired with rear wheel drive and a manual transmission. I'm a sucker for that stuff... I think you might be on to something though, having both is not a bad idea

So, after all the search, have you made the choice for your racer? It must be a Cornelian decision! I am sure you'll have plenty of good time no matter the choice as the pleasure is in the process. If you particularly love the E46, go for it. If it were me, I'd try to make an E46 M3 CSL with manual gearbox so something in the spirit ;-)

About BMW running themselves thin, it's a reality unfortunately. Unlike Porsche that are NOT trying to copy anyone but run their own show, BMW are following Mercedes and Audi too much and are not walking their own path and when they do, they make really bad bad choice that cost them dearly. I'm talking about the 5/6 series GT, the Active Tourer MPV... What were they thinking???? Also having no supercar (or whatever they call) is a mistake for their brand image. It all started when they made the M1: after that they got cold feet. But now the M1 is considered by the classic car world as a blue chip BMW with the 507 and pre-war 328. One of my big gripes is that they cancelled the 1st M8 (early 90's), which would have been a game changer and created a brand new category. https://www.motormag.com.au/features...w-m8-prototype

The secret of Tesla IMO is not too much their cars (hardware), because they are pretty poorly build (Porsche will show them a thing or 2 about that) but their software (updated on a regular basis) and their charging infrastructure. They have understood that the electric car success hinge on how far owners can travel (or think they can travel) and invested accordingly. Their big problem is how to build all the cars they've received the orders for!

Cheers!

Cheers!

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

So, after all the search, have you made the choice for your racer? It must be a Cornelian decision! I am sure you'll have plenty of good time no matter the choice as the pleasure is in the process. If you particularly love the E46, go for it. If it were me, I'd try to make an E46 M3 CSL with manual gearbox so something in the spirit ;-)

About BMW running themselves thin, it's a reality unfortunately. Unlike Porsche that are NOT trying to copy anyone but run their own show, BMW are following Mercedes and Audi too much and are not walking their own path and when they do, they make really bad bad choice that cost them dearly. I'm talking about the 5/6 series GT, the Active Tourer MPV... What were they thinking???? Also having no supercar (or whatever they call) is a mistake for their brand image. It all started when they made the M1: after that they got cold feet. But now the M1 is considered by the classic car world as a blue chip BMW with the 507 and pre-war 328. One of my big gripes is that they cancelled the 1st M8 (early 90's), which would have been a game changer and created a brand new category. https://www.motormag.com.au/features...w-m8-prototype

The secret of Tesla IMO is not too much their cars (hardware), because they are pretty poorly build (Porsche will show them a thing or 2 about that) but their software (updated on a regular basis) and their charging infrastructure. They have understood that the electric car success hinge on how far owners can travel (or think they can travel) and invested accordingly. Their big problem is how to build all the cars they've received the orders for!

Cheers!

Cheers!

Haha, a tough choice indeed. I feel like I do have some time though, as I planned on dual purposing my E90 for a couple years while I looked for my perfect track car. This one Imola Red E46 just caught my attention recently. It was so beautiful it almost disrupted my 2 year plan... Truthfully, I might start looking at E36s again. From a cost standpoint, it does make sense.

You are definitely not alone in the frustration with BMW's decisions, but I'm sure you know that. I get to ride in and sometimes drive a lot of brand new BMWs, ranging from various X models to 440i coupes, various 3 & 5 series models, M2s, etc... I do really enjoy them, but it seems like the focus of the brand has shifted from what it used to be. The industry as a whole is shifting, but there is something to be said for staying true to what you are. This is why I will slowly start to collect my favorite classic BMWs Speaking of classic BMWs - that M8 in the article you shared kind of blew my mind!! Wow. Imagine what could have been if they had pursued that. When I saw the pics in that article, I was instantly reminded of a '92 850i a friend of mine was looking at buying recently:



I had never heard of this car prior to the link he sent me, but it kind of blew my mind too! Fascinating, truly.

I think what I find most impressive about Tesla is how they have managed to disrupt the whole automotive industry in such a short period of time. That is no small feat. Although they have far from perfect auto manufacturing practices, they have succeeded in making all the other major high end manufacturers scramble to create their competition. I agree that their strong points are definitely their software adaptability and their network of charging stations - these things are game changers. And yeah, from a business standpoint, the issue of not being able to keep up with demand can be a big problem. We all saw this coming though right? I have watched this company pull out of so many dire financial situations it is unreal sometimes, we'll see how they maneuver this one

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DreamTime

Haha, a tough choice indeed. I feel like I do have some time though, as I planned on dual purposing my E90 for a couple years while I looked for my perfect track car. This one Imola Red E46 just caught my attention recently. It was so beautiful it almost disrupted my 2 year plan... Truthfully, I might start looking at E36s again. From a cost standpoint, it does make sense.

You are definitely not alone in the frustration with BMW's decisions, but I'm sure you know that. I get to ride in and sometimes drive a lot of brand new BMWs, ranging from various X models to 440i coupes, various 3 & 5 series models, M2s, etc... I do really enjoy them, but it seems like the focus of the brand has shifted from what it used to be. The industry as a whole is shifting, but there is something to be said for staying true to what you are. This is why I will slowly start to collect my favorite classic BMWs Speaking of classic BMWs - that M8 in the article you shared kind of blew my mind!! Wow. Imagine what could have been if they had pursued that. When I saw the pics in that article, I was instantly reminded of a '92 850i a friend of mine was looking at buying recently:

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I had never heard of this car prior to the link he sent me, but it kind of blew my mind too! Fascinating, truly.

I think what I find most impressive about Tesla is how they have managed to disrupt the whole automotive industry in such a short period of time. That is no small feat. Although they have far from perfect auto manufacturing practices, they have succeeded in making all the other major high end manufacturers scramble to create their competition. I agree that their strong points are definitely their software adaptability and their network of charging stations - these things are game changers. And yeah, from a business standpoint, the issue of not being able to keep up with demand can be a big problem. We all saw this coming though right? I have watched this company pull out of so many dire financial situations it is unreal sometimes, we'll see how they maneuver this one

Hi.

Sorry for the late reply: it's been a busy week!

I believe you forgot to attach pics of the E46 ;-). From the cost stand point, the E36 is the cheapest 3-series nowadays so, maybe the less you invest in the donor car, the more you can spend on the racing bits...

About the M8, what a car it would have been. The engine is the precursor to the McLaren F1. The car was a masterpiece in my eyes and so advanced (not only with a carbon roof and bonnet but also with Carbon wheels!!).

Here are a few more detailed pics of it...























About Tesla, it's not only cars they are making but Musk has engineers working on space rockets with boosters that can land by themselves after being used. I wonder if any car company have access to this kind of technology!

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Hi.

Sorry for the late reply: it's been a busy week!

I believe you forgot to attach pics of the E46 ;-). From the cost stand point, the E36 is the cheapest 3-series nowadays so, maybe the less you invest in the donor car, the more you can spend on the racing bits...

About the M8, what a car it would have been. The engine is the precursor to the McLaren F1. The car was a masterpiece in my eyes and so advanced (not only with a carbon roof and bonnet but also with Carbon wheels!!).

About Tesla, it's not only cars they are making but Musk has engineers working on space rockets with boosters that can land by themselves after being used. I wonder if any car company have access to this kind of technology!

Hey!

It's been a busy week here too, but a good week. Hopefully a good week for you as well. I'm happy it's the weekend!

Here are some pics of the E46 I fell in love with. I really like that it has no sunroof, has cloth seats, and was low optioned. My E90 is optioned to the max, and it is very nice and luxurious sure - but I want something different for my dedicated track car. This one kind of checked all the boxes:







Here is a link to the FS page:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=594331

However, I do think I am leaning back towards E36s at this time. It really does seem to make sense.

Back to the M8... that engine...
Really, the entire car is pretty breathtaking. Thank you for sharing those awesome pics. My heart skips a beat when I see such beauty.

As interesting as I find Tesla, I find the work that Elon Musk is doing with SpaceX infinitely more fascinating. I watched a lot of the videos from when they were first testing the landing capabilities of their rockets, and that first time they nailed the landing I felt like I was watching something historical take place. I think they are landing their rockets with some sort of regularity almost at this point. Really, really cool stuff.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DreamTime

Hey!

It's been a busy week here too, but a good week. Hopefully a good week for you as well. I'm happy it's the weekend!

Here are some pics of the E46 I fell in love with. I really like that it has no sunroof, has cloth seats, and was low optioned. My E90 is optioned to the max, and it is very nice and luxurious sure - but I want something different for my dedicated track car. This one kind of checked all the boxes:

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Here is a link to the FS page:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=594331

However, I do think I am leaning back towards E36s at this time. It really does seem to make sense.

Back to the M8... that engine...
Really, the entire car is pretty breathtaking. Thank you for sharing those awesome pics. My heart skips a beat when I see such beauty.

As interesting as I find Tesla, I find the work that Elon Musk is doing with SpaceX infinitely more fascinating. I watched a lot of the videos from when they were first testing the landing capabilities of their rockets, and that first time they nailed the landing I felt like I was watching something historical take place. I think they are landing their rockets with some sort of regularity almost at this point. Really, really cool stuff.

Wow, what a sweet looking E46. I believe the only thing one needs to worry about purchasing these are the vanos and the cracked chassis at the rear subframe but this one looks to have been taken care of and very much loved. And the imola red and cloth/leather combo is fantastic! It would be a bit sad to convert it to a racer though: it looks like a fine daily driver...

Going back to the initial 8 series, It's IMO one of the future classics to invest in when prices are still low. Of course, being such a complicated car, there may be expensive remedial work to put in, but I believe they could be amazing restomod projects (like what Singer does to classic 911's). I've just completed a virtual restomod of the 850i I'm attaching here. I've just widened both front and rear tracks and widened the front and rear fenders, attached sike skirts and front spoiler and cleaned up some of parts such as updating the door handles to modern ones and changing the orange indicators to clear ones. Of course the biggest impact items are bigger wheels/tire combo and brakes. The only part from the car that looks "old" are the rear tail lights, which need to have a more modern slim design. Otherwise this car could be sold as-it today. Attached pic. I think this car is one of the best looking BMW's ever made.

[dzvero]

nice find, just little rusty but nothing to worry about

[Dackelone]

I've got your 8er porn right here...

I took these pics last May at Villa Erba, in Lake Como.

Enjoy!
Dackel

















carbon fiber wheels! In the '90's no less!!

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Wow, what a sweet looking E46. I believe the only thing one needs to worry about purchasing these are the vanos and the cracked chassis at the rear subframe but this one looks to have been taken care of and very much loved. And the imola red and cloth/leather combo is fantastic! It would be a bit sad to convert it to a racer though: it looks like a fine daily driver...

Going back to the initial 8 series, It's IMO one of the future classics to invest in when prices are still low. Of course, being such a complicated car, there may be expensive remedial work to put in, but I believe they could be amazing restomod projects (like what Singer does to classic 911's). I've just completed a virtual restomod of the 850i I'm attaching here. I've just widened both front and rear tracks and widened the front and rear fenders, attached sike skirts and front spoiler and cleaned up some of parts such as updating the door handles to modern ones and changing the orange indicators to clear ones. Of course the biggest impact items are bigger wheels/tire combo and brakes. The only part from the car that looks "old" are the rear tail lights, which need to have a more modern slim design. Otherwise this car could be sold as-it today. Attached pic. I think this car is one of the best looking BMW's ever made.

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Yes, a sweet looking E46 indeed. Totally caught my eye. The fact that the subframe had been reinforced and VANOS had been addressed almost sealed the deal. It definitely does look like it has been well taken care of, even though it has relatively higher miles. I think you are absolutely right though, it is almost too nice to turn into a track car. One day I will have a beautiful E46 M3 like this, but my next car purchase needs to be a track only car - so I had to let this one go…

Umm, I am kind of speechless with what you have presented to us here with the virtual restomod of an 850i. Just gorgeous, wow. Every updated element looks amazing - very well-balanced, tasteful and classy, just perfect. I’m blown away… this is probably the coolest thing I have seen in a while. And, yes, the taillights could stand to be updated, but overall the car is stunning. This has truly made my day! Thank you for sharing!

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I've got your 8er porn right here...

I took these pics last May at Villa Erba, in Lake Como.

Enjoy!
Dackel

Oh, those pics

It is really cool to see the classic 8 series design in comparison to the new. Honestly - I really like both. Even though I am drawn to a more classic look, that new 8 series looks pretty dope. Those old school carbon wheels though...

Awesome pics, thank you!

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DreamTime

Yes, a sweet looking E46 indeed. Totally caught my eye. The fact that the subframe had been reinforced and VANOS had been addressed almost sealed the deal. It definitely does look like it has been well taken care of, even though it has relatively higher miles. I think you are absolutely right though, it is almost too nice to turn into a track car. One day I will have a beautiful E46 M3 like this, but my next car purchase needs to be a track only car - so I had to let this one go…

Umm, I am kind of speechless with what you have presented to us here with the virtual restomod of an 850i. Just gorgeous, wow. Every updated element looks amazing - very well-balanced, tasteful and classy, just perfect. I’m blown away… this is probably the coolest thing I have seen in a while. And, yes, the taillights could stand to be updated, but overall the car is stunning. This has truly made my day! Thank you for sharing!

Hi. Sorry for the late reply: I've been travelling for work. Happy you like the restomod ;-). I believe this car is still stunning and would love to get my hands on a 850 Csi but unfortunately they were never imported in Australia...

Have you made a decision about your race car?

Cheers!

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I've got your 8er porn right here...

I took these pics last May at Villa Erba, in Lake Como.

Enjoy!
Dackel



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Thanks for the amazing pics Dackelone! The M8 is the bomb. On the other hand I don't think this new 8 series is too impressive. There are so many lines and creases and the enlarged kidneys are just too weird. Anyway, just my opinion. But fact is clean and simple design ages much better than complicated ones...

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Thanks for the amazing pics Dackelone! The M8 is the bomb. On the other hand I don't think this new 8 series is too impressive. There are so many lines and creases and the enlarged kidneys are just too weird. Anyway, just my opinion. But fact is clean and simple design ages much better than complicated ones...

I guess we shall see in about a week's time... at Geneva.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I guess we shall see in about a week's time... at Geneva.


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This one is the GC ;-) Hope the lines will be better than the coupé! I'm sure you'll take plenty of pics!

Cheers!

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Hi. Sorry for the late reply: I've been travelling for work. Happy you like the restomod ;-). I believe this car is still stunning and would love to get my hands on a 850 Csi but unfortunately they were never imported in Australia...

Have you made a decision about your race car?

Cheers!

No worries! Nobody would ever have to apologize to me about being busy, I am right there too.

For the most part, yes I have made a decision about my future race car.
I'm going to stick to my original 2 year plan, which means in 2019 I will start seriously looking for a track only car. And, I believe I will be looking for an E36 M3.

The whole reason for the 2 year plan was that I knew I would have to put a lot of $$ into my E90 to keep it happy while I dual purposed it, and that has definitely been the case. This year alone I have done ignition coils, spark plugs, got a dedicated set of track wheels & tires, plus spacers & wheel studs. I have a pile of bushings and mounts sitting in my garage, plus Bilstein shocks on the way. This weekend I am ordering camber plates, water pump, t-stat, and belts & pulleys. I know I still need to do rear rotors and I'll need to get an alignment after my suspension work. There will likely be some other stuff too. Last year was pretty major too, with rod bearings, fluids and filters, lowering springs, brakes, wheels, tires, modified exhaust etc etc... lol. Most of these things needed to be done anyways, so I figured I would enjoy the car as much as I could before finding a car to take over track duty full time

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by DreamTime

No worries! Nobody would ever have to apologize to me about being busy, I am right there too.

For the most part, yes I have made a decision about my future race car.
I'm going to stick to my original 2 year plan, which means in 2019 I will start seriously looking for a track only car. And, I believe I will be looking for an E36 M3.

The whole reason for the 2 year plan was that I knew I would have to put a lot of $$ into my E90 to keep it happy while I dual purposed it, and that has definitely been the case. This year alone I have done ignition coils, spark plugs, got a dedicated set of track wheels & tires, plus spacers & wheel studs. I have a pile of bushings and mounts sitting in my garage, plus Bilstein shocks on the way. This weekend I am ordering camber plates, water pump, t-stat, and belts & pulleys. I know I still need to do rear rotors and I'll need to get an alignment after my suspension work. There will likely be some other stuff too. Last year was pretty major too, with rod bearings, fluids and filters, lowering springs, brakes, wheels, tires, modified exhaust etc etc... lol. Most of these things needed to be done anyways, so I figured I would enjoy the car as much as I could before finding a car to take over track duty full time

Hi.

If you don't have a build thread, you should definitely create one and I will be your 1st subscriber!

By the way, have you heard about the unicorn of the E92 M3's: the CRT?? It was basically a 4-door M3 GTS...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...ght-sedan-news

One was for sale in 2012 in Bimmperpost: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=663359

They are now worth around 300K!!

Cheers!

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Hi.

If you don't have a build thread, you should definitely create one and I will be your 1st subscriber!

By the way, have you heard about the unicorn of the E92 M3's: the CRT?? It was basically a 4-door M3 GTS...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...ght-sedan-news

One was for sale in 2012 in Bimmperpost: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=663359

They are now worth around 300K!!

Cheers!

Here is a CRT for sale...

Go to 08:10...

[DreamTime]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

Hi.

If you don't have a build thread, you should definitely create one and I will be your 1st subscriber!

By the way, have you heard about the unicorn of the E92 M3's: the CRT?? It was basically a 4-door M3 GTS...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...ght-sedan-news

One was for sale in 2012 in Bimmperpost: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=663359

They are now worth around 300K!!

Cheers!

Aww, you’re awesome
I don’t know if I am worthy of my own build thread yet!! For the most part I just ask excessive amounts of questions while I’m here, lol. Plus I pay attention to what other people are doing to help give me ideas. I’m just thankful everyone has been so helpful and nice

It wouldn’t hurt to start documenting all the fun I’m having with this car though. I do spend a lot of time working on it trying to balance it between a comfy & beautiful DD and also a reliable track car. I’ve enjoyed every minute, I’m hooked.

Omg, I had not heard of the CRT before I think a piece of my heart was just reserved for those cars lol. So gorgeous. I have never felt the way I feel about my E90 with any other car, I can’t explain it. It’s just everything I would ever need a car to be. And then, there is the CRT… building on perfection. I have a new car to daydream about...

Super cool there was one for sale on this forum, it was brand new too. You know that thing wasn’t for sale for long. I can’t believe they are worth 300k now!!

I really can’t thank you enough for all the fantastic BMW stuff you have passed my way, I hope you know how happy it makes me! Plus, you have given me some great ideas on topics to write about. You are appreciated!