[ASBSECU E93]

His appointment is today at 6:30 EST. I'm sure the TDi forums will be a buzz with the outcome

[David70]

Originally Posted by David70

If I was the dealer I would just say "no" and let him spend a couple of more days on the VW hotline trying to sort this out and then rescheduling a couple of months out. No point in making this simple for him.

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

David70 - the dealer has ZERO input in this matter. The court approved a settlement amount and conditions for buy back. It clearly stated the only conditions for approved buy back are:

1. the car must move under its own power
2. the car cannot have a salvaged title

He's actually saving VW money by removing parts they'd have to before crushing the car.

He should ADD parts to get back at VW

If I was VW I would tell him to go call the hotline and put him through a giant hassle, then reschedule him at the back of the line. What's stopping them? Eventually they take the car back but they become a giant pain in his as* first.

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

1MOREMOD - no fix for 2009-2013 2.0's...these years are getting crushed.

Not according to this article - http://blog.caranddriver.com/whats-v...hased-diesels/

Will VW crush every car?

Not at all.

Volkswagen can’t resell the cars it buys; nor can it export them to other countries without modifying them to be EPA compliant. Since there is no EPA-approved modification—Volkswagen has multiple deadlines through October 2017 by which it must submit final modification proposals—the cars must be “rendered inoperable” by removing their main brain, the engine control unit (ECU). The rest of the cars can be scrapped for parts, and those parts can be resold here or abroad, including the engines. Only the ECU, the diesel oxidation catalyst, and the diesel particulate filter must be destroyed on each car.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

I'm down for doing this

I'm down for ripping parts off 1MOREMOD 's car without a care in the world as to how they come off.

PM me.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by David70

If I was VW I would tell him to go call the hotline and put him through a giant hassle, then reschedule him at the back of the line. What's stopping them? Eventually they take the car back but they become a giant pain in his as* first.

Not according to this article - http://blog.caranddriver.com/whats-v...hased-diesels/

Read the article - NO Approved Fix.....

VW has a defined period of time to resolve this, or then buy back the cars.

VW has also stated they are not pursuing diesel cars in the US. Why would they continue to invest in a technology they will no longer pursue...?

All 2.0 CR TDi's from 2009-2013 do not have a SCR system and the cars would require in excess of $10k per car to modify.

AND.....the car must not exhibit any degradation of MPG or performance after modification.

Not sure you have all the internet facts....but I'm fairly confident in my information as the owner of a 2.0 and 3.0 TDi.

[1MOREMOD]

Why give up on best power source there is?

[David70]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Read the article - NO Approved Fix.....

VW has a defined period of time to resolve this, or then buy back the cars.

VW has also stated they are not pursuing diesel cars in the US. Why would they continue to invest in a technology they will no longer pursue...?

All 2.0 CR TDi's from 2009-2013 do not have a SCR system and the cars would require in excess of $10k per car to modify.

AND.....the car must not exhibit any degradation of MPG or performance after modification.

Not sure you have all the internet facts....but I'm fairly confident in my information as the owner of a 2.0 and 3.0 TDi.

Nothing you said disagrees with the article I posted. Did you read the paragraph I posted? They buy back the cars and are welcome to part them out and sell the parts here or anywhere else. This has nothing to do with meeting EPA regulations or investing in diesel, current owners all over the world that currently own VW's will have a need for fenders, hoods, bumpers, etc. and VW is welcome to sell them your TDI's parts.

As I already posted, if they can't or don't want to fix them -

the cars must be “rendered inoperable” by removing their main brain, the engine control unit (ECU). The rest of the cars can be scrapped for parts, and those parts can be resold here or abroad, including the engines. Only the ECU, the diesel oxidation catalyst, and the diesel particulate filter must be destroyed on each car.

[JN1]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Hey 1MOREMOD - Highlands Brewing Company is the reason Asheville NC is Beer City USA. They were instrumental in the negotiations with Sierra Nevada and New Belgium to relocate their production facilities to Asheville.

I know the owner (Oscar) - their product is AMAZING.

Isn't Wicked Weed also from Asheville? They have great IPAs.

[EALm4]

I sold my Passat TDI literally days before Dieselgate broke. Sold it to Carmax for a very good offer and actually more than what I had in mind.

Two weeks after Dieselgate I called the same Carmax and asked if they were accepting TDI cars and they flat out told me NO.

Hahaha

I still get the occasional legal mailer with a red label saying recall notice despite calling VW and saying I no longer own the car.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by JNM3

Isn't Wicked Weed also from Asheville? They have great IPAs.

Yes - great as well

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by EALm4

I sold my Passat TDI literally days before Dieselgate broke. Sold it to Carmax for a very good offer and actually more than what I had in mind.

Two weeks after Dieselgate I called the same Carmax and asked if they were accepting TDI cars and they flat out told me NO.

Hahaha

I still get the occasional legal mailer with a red label saying recall notice despite calling VW and saying I no longer own the car.

You may have been eligible for part of the settlement!!

As the prior owner - you should check into that.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by David70

Nothing you said disagrees with the article I posted. Did you read the paragraph I posted? They buy back the cars and are welcome to part them out and sell the parts here or anywhere else. This has nothing to do with meeting EPA regulations or investing in diesel, current owners all over the world that currently own VW's will have a need for fenders, hoods, bumpers, etc. and VW is welcome to sell them your TDI's parts.

As I already posted, if they can't or don't want to fix them -

Parting out items on the car is one thing.

I clearly articulated the non/fixable cars will be crushed.

Regardless if VW strips the cars the same as the article in the OP, then crushes the remnants of the basic power train and frame.

[jpnh]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

This is how you turn in a dirty Diesel

http://nr.news-republic.com/Web/Arti...942&source=sms

Thats just too much work/effort

Cant imagine having that much pent up hate over a situation where VW is coughing up a nice chunk of change to take back cars

[David70]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Parting out items on the car is one thing.

I clearly articulated the non/fixable cars will be crushed.

Regardless if VW strips the cars the same as the article in the OP, then crushes the remnants of the basic power train and frame.

There is nothing that requires VW to crush any of the cars and the article I posted says many of them won't be crushed.

[Axius]

There are a lot of people waiting to see if this will work or not. If it does, then he exposed a loophole everyone will want to jump in on. Now theres an influx of passat and jetta parts sitting in storage. Replacement prices go down due to supply and demand, and that gentleman is now left taking up realestate.



Economicals class 101. He should have kept it a secret and bought all your turds on the cheap and built an empire.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by David70

There is nothing that requires VW to crush any of the cars and the article I posted says many of them won't be crushed.

Agree to disagree.

The overwhelming majority of these cars cannot be fixed without substantial investment from VW.

These cars cannot be sold unless they are fixed.

VW is no longer pursuing diesel in the US and Canada.

You really think they are storing these cars for some future benefit or sale...?

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Axius

There are a lot of people waiting to see if this will work or not. If it does, then he exposed a loophole everyone will want to jump in on. Now theres an influx of passat and jetta parts sitting in storage. Replacement prices go down due to supply and demand, and that gentleman is now left taking up realestate.



Economicals class 101. He should have kept it a secret and bought all your turds on the cheap and built an empire.

He's not the first to strip a VW and then sell it back - just the first to take it to this extreme.

[jpnh]

Originally Posted by David70

There is nothing that requires VW to crush any of the cars and the article I posted says many of them won't be crushed.

Once an approved "fix" is avail many/most vehicles will be repaired and resold where its economically feasible to do so

Most of the Gen1 cars will likely be stripped for parts/crushed due to age and mileage

Many Gen2 cars (up to 2014) will be fixed and resold based on economical viability

ALL of the 2015's will make their way back onto the road as the fix is going to be negligent and probably s/w only and they are much lower mileage and in better condition....unless there's 6k in parts missing from the car that is......

[Axius]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

He's not the first to strip a VW and then sell it back - just the first to take it to this extreme.

I mean, they technically cant say no if those are tge only two provisions. How fast can the paperwork be changed if it does actually work?

[jpnh]

Originally Posted by Axius

I mean, they technically cant say no if those are tge only two provisions. How fast can the paperwork be changed if it does actually work?

I believe that the courts would have to approve changes at this point

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by jpnh

I believe that the courts would have to approve changes at this point

And VW would risk additional scrutiny if this went back.

Owners could as well....but the owners are the victims here

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

David70 - the dealer has ZERO input in this matter. The court approved a settlement amount and conditions for buy back. It clearly stated the only conditions for approved buy back are:

1. the car must move under its own power
2. the car cannot have a salvaged title

He's actually saving VW money by removing parts they'd have to before crushing the car.

He should ADD parts to get back at VW

I'm thinking a liter or so of silver mercury distributed liberally would be just about right to make the environmental disaster complete.

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Hey 1MOREMOD - Highlands Brewing Company is the reason Asheville NC is Beer City USA. They were instrumental in the negotiations with Sierra Nevada and New Belgium to relocate their production facilities to Asheville.

I know the owner (Oscar) - their product is AMAZING.

Sierra Nevada and New Belgium didn't relocate their production, they expanded their production in NC.