[F22_Raptor]

[Mtxzptlk]

Looking like a procession for 60+ laps at this point.

Only a SC can make it interesting from here on.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by WoohooSoCal

Max will be World Champion one day. I want him to, like you do.

Hup Holland!!

YEAHHHHH .....

But.....
Almost no one knows that "MAX" is actually "BELGIAN" !

[ashtaron14]

Originally Posted by Mtxzptlk

Looking like a procession for 60+ laps at this point.

Only a SC can make it interesting from here on.

RIC: I got screwed twice in two races

[rad doc]

Originally Posted by Mtxzptlk

Looking like a procession for 60+ laps at this point.

Only a SC can make it interesting from here on.

Wow you couldn't have been more wrong. Great race. Poor Rico

[DieGrüneHölle]

Very entertaining race.

Ricciardo now feels how Hamilton did last year.

Interested to see RB's new found speed at a normal F1 track.

[Mtxzptlk]

Originally Posted by rad doc

Wow you couldn't have been more wrong. Great race. Poor Rico

I sure was. LOL
I fell asleep for a bit watching the first laps after SC left the track. It seem like a procession at the until the track started to dry out and drivers started swapping from wets/inters to slicks.

Feeling bummed for Ricciardo. Too much glow on Verstappen (who kept stuffing his car in the barrier all weekend) it seems that Red Bull forgot that it had another driver.

[DC-T]

I'm a glutton for F1. So I will watch if there's a 100km/h speed limit.

That being said it's extremely irritating that Lewis gets to cut the chicane and not give the place back, but Pascal gets a 10s penalty for speeding behind the VSC. The rules the same for everyone?

Red Bull have broken a pit stop law-be ready. Always at the ready. If I didn't know better I'd even say they tried to sabotage him. All 13 of them confused on what should be going on. That kind of disaster is reserved for under 5 karting.

But the season is long.

[ptack]

Honestly, one of the funnier moments in F1, especially from a top team. I wonder if they were just a few seconds away from Riccardo pulling up and no one even being there. I'm sure he was sitting there having stopped on the mark thinking, "OK, let's go..wait, where the hell are the wheels? Oh my God! What is going on?"

Has anyone ever pulled up to the wrong pit?

[solstice]

Lewis shows who still is the better driver at Benz. Impressive mental feat to pull himself together. Looks promising for a good fight the rest of the season.

What to say about poor RIC? I'm disappointed that he lost his graceful and cheerful ways but also understands it. Who wouldn't. He'll get more chances but need to forgive the team and move on.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by DC-T

I'm a glutton for F1. So I will watch if there's a 100km/h speed limit.

That being said it's extremely irritating that Lewis gets to cut the chicane and not give the place back, but Pascal gets a 10s penalty for speeding behind the VSC. The rules the same for everyone?

Red Bull have broken a pit stop law-be ready. Always at the ready. If I didn't know better I'd even say they tried to sabotage him. All 13 of them confused on what should be going on. That kind of disaster is reserved for under 5 karting.

But the season is long.

The verdict..

Ricciardo was in control of the race when he moved into the pits on lap "32" But in a case of "miscommunication between the team’s engineers and mechanics" Ricciardo was left stranded in the pits waiting for the tyres to arrive.

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by DC-T

I'm a glutton for F1. So I will watch if there's a 100km/h speed limit.

That being said it's extremely irritating that Lewis gets to cut the chicane and not give the place back, but Pascal gets a 10s penalty for speeding behind the VSC. The rules the same for everyone?

Red Bull have broken a pit stop law-be ready. Always at the ready. If I didn't know better I'd even say they tried to sabotage him. All 13 of them confused on what should be going on. That kind of disaster is reserved for under 5 karting.

But the season is long.

Hamilton gained no advantage and didn't need to give the position back because he was already in first place. Now, had it happened repeatedly (think Rosberg @ Canada a few years back) then maybe you'd have grounds to complain.

Happened once. No advantage gained. No penalty.

[six_timer]

Originally Posted by ptack

Has anyone ever pulled up to the wrong pit?

The one that comes to mind is after Hamilton switched from McLaren to Mercedes, he pulled into the McLaren pits.

[DC-T]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

Hamilton gained no advantage and didn't need to give the position back because he was already in first place. Now, had it happened repeatedly (think Rosberg @ Canada a few years back) then maybe you'd have grounds to complain.

Happened once. No advantage gained. No penalty.

Cutting the chicane, when the other driver is next you and not giving the place back is an offence. Same way Bottas did. The advantage was gained because he didn't loose the place despite cutting the chicane. If the other driver was mlies behind it's a different scenario, but not then the pass was happening.

[mc-m3]

Originally Posted by DC-T

Cutting the chicane, when the other driver is next you and not giving the place back is an offence. Same way Bottas did. The advantage was gained because he didn't loose the place despite cutting the chicane. If the other driver was mlies behind it's a different scenario, but not then the pass was happening.

Ricardo was behind him, not next to him. I'm guessing that if he had made the chicane they would have crashed into each other.

[DC-T]

Originally Posted by mc-m3

Ricardo was behind him, not next to him. I'm guessing that if he had made the chicane they would have crashed into each other.

Then it was up to RIC to take evasive action of he was on the line. Surely if WEH can get a 10s penalty which matters nothing a penalty can also be handed down for something just as petty.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by DC-T

Then it was up to RIC to take evasive action of he was on the line. Surely if WEH can get a 10s penalty which matters nothing a penalty can also be handed down for something just as petty.

Weh getting penalty for exceeding VSC speed limit makes complete sense and isn't petty. Remember VSC exists because of Jules death. You better believe drivers will get penalties for exceeding the limit, especially when Jules family is currently suing F1.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by mc-m3

Ricardo was behind him, not next to him.

Exactly. Also Ricciardo only got next to Ham coming out of the chicane because when Lewis cut the chicane he went off the dry line. Lewis cutting the chicane actually slowed him down and hurt his exit being on wet track. He didn't gain anything and Ricciardo wasn't even next to him going into the chicane. I agree with stewards decision. Now if they were wheel to wheel coming out of the tunnel, that would change things.

[ChuckAWDM2]

cool

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by DC-T

Cutting the chicane, when the other driver is next you and not giving the place back is an offence. Same way Bottas did. The advantage was gained because he didn't loose the place despite cutting the chicane. If the other driver was mlies behind it's a different scenario, but not then the pass was happening.

What race were you watching?

At no point during Hamilton's cutting of the chicane was Riccardo attempting a pass. Now, later in the race, and at the same location, when Rosberg passed Alonso only BECAUSE he cut the chicane, he gave the position back.

Hamilton cutting the chicane was nothing like that.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

Hamilton gained no advantage and didn't need to give the position back because he was already in first place. Now, had it happened repeatedly (think Rosberg @ Canada a few years back) then maybe you'd have grounds to complain.

Happened once. No advantage gained. No penalty.

From the rule book point of view it could be a grey area but from the point of fair racing it's crystal clear to me that a driver that is pushed by another to make a mistake and over cooking a corner should be penalized and not be able keep position by driving off the track. It's one of the corner stones of racing IMO to push your opponent to make a mistake to be able to overtake. Nico did it ( cut corners ) and got away with it repeatedly in Canada last year and it was irritating to watch, so did Kvyat if I recall correctly. They can't really have sand traps in Monaco as natural penalties of such mistakes so the ruling should be tougher IMO. If this was quali the lap would not have counted, again showing that there should be a penalty for this.

[DC-T]

Originally Posted by solstice

From the rule book point of view it could be a grey area but from the point of fair racing it's crystal clear to me that a driver that is pushed by another to make a mistake and over cooking a corner should be penalized and not be able keep position by driving off the track. It's one of the corner stones of racing IMO to push your opponent to make a mistake to be able to overtake. Nico did it ( cut corners ) and got away with it repeatedly in Canada last year and it was irritating to watch, so did Kvyat if I recall correctly. They can't really have sand traps in Monaco as natural penalties of such mistakes so the ruling should be tougher IMO. If this was quali the lap would not have counted, again showing that there should be a penalty for this.

Ah, I'm not mad. Makes me feel better...