BMW moves up 3 spots in Consumer Reports 2016 new car reliability survey.

raysspl · 10-22-2015, 04:08 PM

Interesting how BMW is more reliable than Acura. I'll take that!

Powaup · 10-22-2015, 04:33 PM

how did Porsche fall down 5 spots?

JNoSol · 10-22-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Powaup

how did Porsche fall down 5 spots?

I heard the 2012/2013 991 had a lot of minor issues. Porsche don't sell as many cars as BMWs, it only takes a few bad batches to drop down the list. I'm shocked that Acura is so low, considering they are made by Honda. I still see 20yr old Acura Integras on the road, still running strong.

DDD31 · 10-22-2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Powaup

how did Porsche fall down 5 spots?

Apparently the Cayman declined and the Macan had a below average debut according to Consumer Reports.

Leonardo629 · 10-22-2015, 05:47 PM

Audi is reliable?

r3dbimmer89 · 10-22-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DDD31

Apparently the Cayman declined and the Macan had a below average debut according to Consumer Reports.

From what I've heard, ever since they starting building Caymans in the old Karmann plant in Osnabrück they've been having some issues. The Macan is a new model so that is a given.

TheBry · 10-22-2015, 07:10 PM

And what's the deal with Mercedes? They're waaayyy down on the list. Thought they'd be closer to BMW.

Kiemyster · 10-22-2015, 08:05 PM

Its comforting to know Bmw and Mini are next to eachother which shows consistancy between parent and sub company. Definitely shocked to see Audi where it is, and disappointed but not surprised to see Mercedes position.

vladislav · 10-23-2015, 05:21 AM

That is ridiculous! As from my experience ( i have a lot friends with new premium cars and friends who work in service centers) Audi is the least reliable car and mb is by far the most reliable. My rating is
1) Mercedes-benz
2) BMW
3) Audi

M3 n X5M · 10-23-2015, 07:27 AM

7 of the 8 parent Asian companies are above BMW. And Audi is consistently at the top.

luvthestck · 10-23-2015, 07:49 AM

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Likewise the gap between Honda and Acura. Acura dropped 7 spots, makes me wonder if they had one or two models with a major problem.

Their entire line up is riddled with subpar cars with problematic 9 speed tranny and a horrid laggy infotainment system.The New MDX leads the bunch with its horrid build quality issues,rear suspensions noises,interior noises etc.Its the 3rd year in production and still has problems that acura has no solution to.Acura of the tester years is gone.They are all built now in Alabama run by minions.

AbuArije5 · 10-23-2015, 01:39 PM

This list doesn't even seem accurate. Probably need more details on the list

Taskmaster · 10-23-2015, 09:23 PM

Fucking Audi and VW. Shit cars.

Needbmwpartzz · 10-24-2015, 02:41 PM

These reports don't tell the whole picture it is only a cross-section of the reality of car reliability.
By so far my bmw has been more reliable than any domestic vehicles I have owned and almost on par with imports I have bought....but also cost much more to maintain a luxury brand as opposed to non-luxury...which should be a given.

///mawana · 10-24-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

Audi is reliable?

Shocking!

34.50 · 10-24-2015, 11:24 PM

I stopped reading as soon as I saw Audi. Really? Also, Subaru? Nope, not from what I have seen. Good thing this is "predicted" because some of these are way off.

Efthreeoh · 10-25-2015, 07:25 AM

You have to take this with a grain of salt. These data are generated by people who complain if the car rattles and consider it unreliable. Unreliable means the car leaves you on the side of the road (BMW's HPFP) or is constantly in the shop for repairs. Unreliable is not because the HMI is considered to suck (i.e. Caddy CUE system).

oolas3 · 10-25-2015, 09:57 AM

When it comes to cars, I give CR next to zero weight.

antzcrashing · 10-25-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vladislav

That is ridiculous! As from my experience ( i have a lot friends with new premium cars and friends who work in service centers) Audi is the least reliable car and mb is by far the most reliable. My rating is
1) Mercedes-benz
2) BMW
3) Audi

I agree with bmw over audi in he past. It is quite well understood that bmw makes more quality cars. But has something changed? Or is the consumer reports measure crap? Maybe the number of issues is the prevailing thing with cr but in reality it is the severity of the issue that is more important. The other thing that i care about that is probably not captured well is reliability above the warranty and above 100k miles which manufactures and reporting agencies seem to ignor

Efthreeoh · 10-26-2015, 05:43 AM

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When it comes to cars, I give CR next to zero weight.

So way back I read a CR review of the 1986 Ford Thunderbird turbo coupe. At one point the reviewer rated the T-bird on how difficult it was to get out of the driver's side door with a bag of groceries (gave the car a poor rating...). Keep in mind this was 1986 and most grocery stores used paper bags not plastic like nowadays. Regardless, it was the stupidest thing I ever read in a car review.

F83 · 10-26-2015, 10:13 AM

Most of this looks about right but I am surprised at how high Audi, Buick and Kia are.

MightyMouseTech · 10-26-2015, 10:23 AM

Acura LOL

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