[C5driver]

Originally Posted by eric@helix

136 miles on the clock, so the break-in-miles-ride was tame, but it was clearly evident that this is the best Porsche you can buy (unless your last name is Al Saud).

I'm not planning on a 8/10ths test drive, with the release lubricant still fresh.

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by C5driver

Need some additional advice from those familiar with the brand.

This past weekend, I spent some time with a friend with a 997 Carrera S and he talked me into taking a look at the Cayman GT4 as a replacement for my track/fun car. I called a local dealer and asked about the 2017 allocation and he surprised me by saying they have 2 GT4's on the lot, especially since they weren't on the online inventory list.

So this week, I've been going through a few thoughts, primary of which is...with the expected markup, what is my monetary threshold between need and want. Having never owned a Porsche and honestly, never been interested in them, this comes as surprising, but the driver-centric nature of the GT4 intrigues me.

The one Cayman S that shows up online is at $110k.

What options are a must have for this car? How is the dealer experience different from BMW?

Adaptive Sport seats or the carbon buckets, I would go for the Adaptive, they don't look as cool but for the way I would use the car they would be my choice.

Beyond that up to you radio etc, if I was ordering I don't think I would check the PCCB box.

I had a 987 Boxster S that I bought new when the first came out (significant for dealer experience). Dealer experience was very good. The loaner car situation is not as good as BMW, my dealer had a couple of Cayenne loaners, but I would often end up in a cheap rental (I had a Cayenne S and a Boxster S at the same time, so I would end up getting service fairly regularly).

My sales guy was a track instructor and got me into tracking my car and I loved it. The service department was cool, they knew that my car saw track use (tire ware and a couple mods my have tipped them off) and they adjusted the suspension the be as track focused as possible and still in spec at no charge.

I almost forgot, my girlfriend (wife now) and I were invited by Porsche NA to be guests at cirque du soleil in San Francisco, they put out a nice spread, good drinks, good food, private entrance and tent for the show.....I need to buy another Porsche!

[gtron]

speaking of options... they are the best at making everything an option and charging a pretty penny for them. they also make you feel like you need "just one more option".

i have a good number of options and all past bmw's i got every option i could but looking back at the porsche, i don't need any of them really. i think the chrono would be nice. the fun of driving the car is more than enough though. i guess maybe if it's a DD the more options the better. still not necessary imo.

i wish the gt4 or even the gts was out when i bought mine - they come with all the options you need... three pedals.

[C5driver]

They really do nickle and dime every option. I'm not interested in painted key fobs but the PCCB, fire extinguisher, sport chrono package, and full buckets (will have to try them) are on the list.

The only concession will be bi-xenon headlights in black, PCM, and seatbelt in guards red.

Question...can Porsche retrofit existing models with options?

[gonzo]

^
Retro fit?
That would be a no.

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by gonzo

^
Retro fit?
That would be a no.

Thanks. We'll see what they have then.

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by C5driver

They really do nickle and dime every option. I'm not interested in painted key fobs but the PCCB, fire extinguisher, sport chrono package, and full buckets (will have to try them) are on the list.

The only concession will be bi-xenon headlights in black, PCM, and seatbelt in guards red.

Question...can Porsche retrofit existing models with options?

Can they? Yes, but no un-Godly expensive. Seats and the like, I can't imagine they would mess with brakes sport chrono etc, just bolt on stuff

[C5driver]

Just texted the "brand ambassador" for the two build sheets.

[ridin135]

C5driver if the mark up isn't extreme I would grab the car in a heartbeat. It's the best car I have personally driven hands down. Don't let all these people disuede you because of the long gearing. Yes it's long but it doesn't take away from the experience at all. The exact same gears are in the cayman s and no one ever complained about those.

As far as options go the less options the better. There are no must have options as all the performance upgrades are standard except for pccb. Those however are a waste on this car as the steels are already oversized. All the other options just add unnecessary weight. Carbon buckets are cool but wouldn't be great if you daily it and arnt supportive enough if it's a dedicated track car. I wouldn't go 18 way either as the standard seats weigh less and have plenty of adjustment in them.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by eric@helix

Whelp, I got a ride in one yesterday.



136 miles on the clock, so the break-in-miles-ride was tame, but it was clearly evident that this is the best Porsche you can buy (unless your last name is Al Saud).

C5driver


SOoooo... I wanna know what color GT4 are you guys gonna order/buy off the lot.

Damn I am jealous of you guys!!

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by C5driver

It's always easy to spend someone else's money

A 30% premium is a hell of a starting point for losses.

Hey I'm in a turbo s that's losing money faster that a fat man falling out of a plane

Just looked at gt3 in the UK - they are around $300k secondhand

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by tjlees

Hey I'm in a turbo s that's losing money faster that a fat man falling out of a plane

Originally Posted by tjlees

Just looked at gt3 in the UK - they are around $300k secondhand

997 or 991?

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

C5driver

SOoooo... I wanna know what color GT4 are you guys gonna order/buy off the lot.

Damn I am jealous of you guys!!

Hopefully I'll get the build sheets before this weekend. As it stands, we should have nice weather for a drive!

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by C5driver

997 or 991?

991

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by tjlees

991

I'll let you know what they're asking for those GT4s.

[gtron]

Originally Posted by tjlees

Hey I'm in a turbo s that's losing money faster that a fat man falling out of a plane

damn, that's as fast as a skinny man falling out of a plane!

[C5driver]

Slightly less than the M6 for a sub-$100K MSRP. The other is pending.

2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
White exterior
Black with Guards red stitching interior
Fire extinguisher
2-zone automatic air conditioning.
Bi-Xenon Headlights in Black incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System
Light design package
Sport Chrono Package incl. Porsche Track Precision App.
Wings in black
Headlight cleaning system covers in deviated exterior color
Carbon interior package icw leather interior
Auto-dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensors
Porsche communication management including navigation module with universal audio interface
Wheels painted in satin black
Center console trim in carbon fiber
Seat belts in Guards Red

MSRP $98,750
Market adjustment $25,000
Dealer Asking Price $123,750

[baege]

I have a really basic 2016 CS, 6 speed manual, x73 suspension, 20 inch wheels and sport design steering wheel, that's it, and I can tell you the car is an amazing joy to drive.

I can only imagine a GT4 offers an even more amazing driving experience.

as gtron put it above, the three pedals really are key, the rest is gravy

[gtron]

Originally Posted by C5driver

MSRP $98,750
Market adjustment $25,000
Dealer Asking Price $123,750

i hate to say it but i wish everyone would just tell them to fuck off rather than "drive" up prices. greed, excitement, and instant gratification though; it's a bitch.

i would offer the full msrp and that's it. if they want the quick sale, cool. if not ef-um. that's just me though.

since it's not me... DO IT! kidding haha

i am interested in what happens though.

[Electron mike]

I have a GT4 and an F80 M3. Two very different cars, but both very fun! Are you looking to add a GT4 or replace an M car? If you provide more background on what you like in a car and intended use, I can offer my two cents.

[dtwyim]

If you want more opinions, post your question here.

http://rennlist.com/forums/gt4-235/

Be prepare for some heated discussion.

There is a reason why those cars are still available. 25k over MSRP. If money is no object, go for it.

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by Electron mike

I have a GT4 and an F80 M3. Two very different cars, but both very fun! Are you looking to add a GT4 or replace an M car? If you provide more background on what you like in a car and intended use, I can offer my two cents.

I'm looking to replace my go kart C5 coupe...light, track capable, and engaging...something for weekend canyon runs and track car.

I drove the M235, M3, and M4 on a closed course and wasn't too impressed with either the weight or power delivery out of the corners of both the M3 and M4. I preferred the M235 for it's weight and quickness.

The M6 will continue to be in the stable.