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So far, heard bad stories also about vw issues at times.

[Alen E90]

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[tek818]

Diesel is a fashion watch, so really if you like how it looks, go for it. I would certainly look into getting an actual timepiece from a reputable watch manufacturer, and not a clothing designer.

[neverdone]

If you like gold and watches, look into rose gold, but stay away from diesel garbage. I have this one and it's a killer piece, albeit it is blingy and a bit douchey, but I'm a true collector of actual pieces and not fashion watches, and this fits the bill.

[K19BMW]

Originally Posted by neverdone

If you like gold and watches, look into rose gold, but stay away from diesel garbage. I have this one and it's a killer piece, albeit it is blingy and a bit douchey, but I'm a true collector of actual pieces and not fashion watches, and this fits the bill.

Lol a rose gold navihawk is absolutely a fashion watch. You sure as hell arent buying that watch to use its 10,000 features hahahah

[neverdone]

It's a fashionable watch, sure, but it's not a fashion watch. A fashion watch is a diesel, d&g, Armani, fossil etc etc.

This is an actual functional watch, unlike most of the fashion brands and ya, I just got the watch, so I haven't used the features, but I bought it for the radio controlled features and to use them.

Like I said, I don't buy fashion watches, in my collection I have some Lum-Tec, Tag, Breitling and Movado Series 800 to name a few, and all of them, if they have the dive functions or any other functions, are all put to use, they're not box queens.

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by neverdone

It's a fashionable watch, sure, but it's not a fashion watch. A fashion watch is a diesel, d&g, Armani, fossil etc etc.

This is an actual functional watch, unlike most of the fashion brands and ya, I just got the watch, so I haven't used the features, but I bought it for the radio controlled features and to use them.

Like I said, I don't buy fashion watches, in my collection I have some Lum-Tec, Tag, Breitling and Movado Series 800 to name a few, and all of them, if they have the dive functions or any other functions, are all put to use, they're not box queens.

Red:
Is there really no more general way to define and identify fashion watches? If not, is there some universally agreed upon list of which companies make only fashion watches? Is it that the watches carrying the name of a maker who also makes garments and other fashion accessories are necessarily, and by association, fashion watches?

Blue:
Well, now, there's something I've never seen: a fashion watch that is not also functional. A few months ago, my father's Rolex wasn't functional, but he's since had it repaired. Perhaps it was temporarily a fashion watch?

All of the fashion watches I've seen have measured and reported, among other things, the time of day. Seeing as you know of some non-functional fashion watches, please share with me what they are.

All the best.

[neverdone]

Originally Posted by tony20009

Red:
Is there really no more general way to define and identify fashion watches? If not, is there some universally agreed upon list of which companies make only fashion watches? Is it that the watches carrying the name of a maker who also makes garments and other fashion accessories are necessarily, and by association, fashion watches?

Blue:
Well, now, there's something I've never seen: a fashion watch that is not also functional. A few months ago, my father's Rolex wasn't functional, but he's since had it repaired. Perhaps it was temporarily a fashion watch?

All of the fashion watches I've seen have measured and reported, among other things, the time of day. Seeing as you know of some non-functional fashion watches, please share with me what they are.

All the best.

Fairly condescending in your remarks there I think. Maybe I worded it wrong, but yes I think the definition of a fashion watch is that it's not specifically a watch/jewelry designer. Most of the watches I mentioned are made by the same manufacturing company, that also make Oakley glasses and other things as well and have a lot of the same movements.

As for your other comments, fashion watches may have made functional chrono watches, but as far as I've ever seen, nothing like the Navihawk. If there have been I guess I wouldn't know, I wouldn't buy it.

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by neverdone

Fairly condescending in your remarks there I think. Maybe I worded it wrong, but yes I think the definition of a fashion watch is that it's [maker is] not [predominantly] a watch/jewelry designer. Most of the watches I mentioned are made by the same manufacturing company, that also make Oakley glasses and other things as well and have a lot of the same movements.

As for your other comments, fashion watches may have made functional chrono watches, but as far as I've ever seen, nothing like the Navihawk. If there have been I guess I wouldn't know, I wouldn't buy it.

TY for the honest reply. I appreciate that.

Perhaps what you wrote in the earlier post and what you meant aren't the same things. The reworded-by-me text in the first paragraph above is what I think you mean(t).

I would just offer one caution, since it's not among the stuff you wrote either time: don't assume that because a maker doesn't strictly make just watches that the watches they make aren't first rate. There are quite a few designer (non-watch only) brands for which that is far from so.

• Dior -- http://birrellappraisal.com/the-time...-dior-watches/
• Chanel -- https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...rand/s/chanel/
• Louis Vuitton -- http://www.my-watchsite.com/watch-lu...uitton-56.html
• Bulgari -- https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...and/s/bulgari/
• Ralph Lauren -- http://www.my-watchsite.com/watch-lu...lauren-84.html -- RL watches are essentially Richemont's "private label" brand. Richemont licenses the name from RL and gets aesthetic design input from RL. Everything about the watch's manufacture is pure Richemont, which is to say, the "guts" come from throughout the Richemont stable...JLC and Piaget being the primary providers.
• Mont Blanc -- https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...d/s/montblanc/
• Graff -- http://www.masterhorologer.com/2009/...ction-and.html -- These folks are mostly known for being jewelers to the "jet set," but they purchased a watch manufacturing facility and now make first rate watches too, but only really, really rich folks buy them. No surprise with the price of entry being ~$45K and the jewels on/in them being as important as the horological craftsmanship, and the target customer buys it very much the same way they'd buy a new pair of shoes, not as an instrument of horological brilliance. Their watches aren't technologically innovative, but they are top flight, and they have "in house" cachet.
• Hermes -- https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...rand/s/hermes/
• Piaget -- http://www.thewatchquote.com/Piaget-History-No_117.htm (Probably the most serious of watch companies that is also a non-watch company. These guys give up nothing to PP, AP and VC, except perhaps brand awareness by the general, non-watchie public)
• Boucheron -- https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...d/s/boucheron/
• Van Cleef & Arpels -- https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...-cleef-arpels/
• Cartier -- https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...and/s/cartier/
• Tiffany (these days, to a lesser extent than the rest, but still nice. More to my point, however, their watches could easily change back to the stature they had when Patek and Rolex made Tiffany watches.)
• John Varvatos (solid mid-range watches made by Ernst Benz)

FWIW, functional watches need only do one thing: measure time. Time measurement doesn't require a displayed stopwatch function. It only requires that some increment of time is measured. A watch doesn't actually have to display/report time; however, it must measure time. A current example of that principle is found in some of Beat Haldimann's watches.


Beat Haldimann H1






Beat Haldiman H9



https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/b...eat-haldimann/

All the best.

[Alen E90]

Originally Posted by tek818

Diesel is a fashion watch, so really if you like how it looks, go for it. I would certainly look into getting an actual timepiece from a reputable watch manufacturer, and not a clothing designer.

Thank you for posting. I agree with you that Diesel watches fit the category of a "fashion watch", but nevertheless I just love the way they look!

Originally Posted by neverdone

If you like gold and watches, look into rose gold, but stay away from diesel garbage. I have this one and it's a killer piece, albeit it is blingy and a bit douchey, but I'm a true collector of actual pieces and not fashion watches, and this fits the bill.

That's a nice watch, but I just personally don't like the brand Citizen.

[Norseman]

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Nobody rocks Diesel?

2015 328xD
Love it.

Never had a Diesel powered watch however.
Should be pretty economical?

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[tony20009]

Originally Posted by Alen E90

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Are you still looking for more input on the topic? If so what sort of input? Perhaps you'll find articles like this helpful: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/fa...tion.html?_r=0 ?

As for the popularity of Diesel watches, well, I'm sure there are people who like them, but the brand (perhaps the maker) isn't among the top brands most people seek when considering a watch. (http://www.ranker.com/list/best-men-...werner-brandes) You may want to check out sites like Watchuseek.com and other consumer oriented watch forums if you are looking for other Diesel fans. I doubt you'll find much if any mention of Diesel on the more serious collector forums like that of the NAWCC, Vintage Collector, or Timezone.

All the best.

[Alen E90]

Originally Posted by tony20009

Are you still looking for more input on the topic? If so what sort of input? Perhaps you'll find articles like this helpful: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/fa...tion.html?_r=0 ?

As for the popularity of Diesel watches, well, I'm sure there are people who like them, but the brand (perhaps the maker) isn't among the top brands most people seek when considering a watch. (http://www.ranker.com/list/best-men-...werner-brandes) You may want to check out sites like Watchuseek.com and other consumer oriented watch forums if you are looking for other Diesel fans. I doubt you'll find much if any mention of Diesel on the more serious collector forums like that of the NAWCC, Vintage Collector, or Timezone.

All the best.

Thanks for the links, I'll check them out.

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by Alen E90

Thanks for the links, I'll check them out.

You're welcome.

All the best.