Advice desperately needed!!

Nordkeyz73 · 01-19-2015, 12:39 AM

Believe or not, Lemon Law applies to used cars as well. OP, in your case, they not only sold you a lemon, if they knew about it that's strike two. Depending on how long your car was out of service, or how many fixes they did, that could be strike three.

http://www.ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds...law-fact-sheet

Lawyer up.

IMMLaw · 01-19-2015, 10:13 AM

I'm an attorney. I read your entire story.

My advice, as others here have mentioned, HIRE A LAWYER. IMMEDIATELY. This will get resolved so much quicker and you'll come out smelling like a rose. Seriously. DO IT NOW.

nicknaz · 01-19-2015, 11:08 AM

Sorry to hear OP. I think this is more is used car buying issue than Bmw specific issue.

This sounds exactly why car dealers have a bad reputation.

Definitely lawyer up and politely mention this fact to the dealership.

dkhm3 · 01-19-2015, 11:50 AM

sorry op.

if you are buying a used m4- avoid these 2:

Sakhir Orange/ Sakhir Orange M4 with major suspension damage
Black Sapphire Metallic M4 with major under carriage damage

teazr1 · 01-19-2015, 02:47 PM

Did they advertise or tell you the car was accident free when you bought it? Keep in mind that's very different than saying it has a clean Carfax. As you noted, many accidents go un-reported to Carfax. The only way things are reported to Carfax are when someone voluntarily reports or there's some form of public record relating to the incident. Selling a car that's previously been in an accident is not wrong and is done frequently. If they told you it had never been in an accident and it was, then that's another story. You'll need to have proof of that conversation, thus why you are always supposed to get things in writing. Used cars are often in accidents...part of being a used car. Even CPO'd cars can be in minor accidents. Not sure how much that's going to help you. If you like the car, it drives good, doesn't have issues, and you can get the paint to match, I say drive it and enjoy it and move on. The oil usage on the F10 M5's are pretty common.

gearboxtrouble · 01-19-2015, 03:35 PM

Better call Saul. A missing VIN is a big deal.

JustChris · 01-19-2015, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkhm3

sorry op.

if you are buying a used m4- avoid these 2:

Sakhir Orange/ Sakhir Orange M4 with major suspension damage
Black Sapphire Metallic M4 with major under carriage damage

Lol!

01-19-2015, 12:39 AM	#23
Nordkeyz73 Lieutenant 166 Rep 571 Posts Drives: E90 328i ZSP, Macan Turbo Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Believe or not, Lemon Law applies to used cars as well. OP, in your case, they not only sold you a lemon, if they knew about it that's strike two. Depending on how long your car was out of service, or how many fixes they did, that could be strike three. http://www.ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds...law-fact-sheet Lawyer up. __________________ BMW Performance SSK, BMW Performance Blackline Tails, BMW Performance Exhaust, BMW 3-Stage Intake Manifold, Evolve Automotive Tune, Weisslicht LED Halos, Black Kidneys, Digital Speedo
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IMMLaw Esq. 46 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	I'm an attorney. I read your entire story. My advice, as others here have mentioned, HIRE A LAWYER. IMMEDIATELY. This will get resolved so much quicker and you'll come out smelling like a rose. Seriously. DO IT NOW.
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nicknaz Lieutenant General 3196 Rep 10,509 Posts Drives: C6Z Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear OP. I think this is more is used car buying issue than Bmw specific issue. This sounds exactly why car dealers have a bad reputation. Definitely lawyer up and politely mention this fact to the dealership.
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dkhm3 Brigadier General 1885 Rep 3,341 Posts Drives: 991.2 GT3 2020 X3MC Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County iTrader: (0)	sorry op. if you are buying a used m4- avoid these 2: Sakhir Orange/ Sakhir Orange M4 with major suspension damage Black Sapphire Metallic M4 with major under carriage damage __________________ Currently: 2018 GT3 2020 X3MC Previously: 1999 M3 2002 M3 2005 S4 2008 C63 2015 M3 2016 X5M 2019 911S
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teazr1 Private First Class 58 Rep 127 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	Did they advertise or tell you the car was accident free when you bought it? Keep in mind that's very different than saying it has a clean Carfax. As you noted, many accidents go un-reported to Carfax. The only way things are reported to Carfax are when someone voluntarily reports or there's some form of public record relating to the incident. Selling a car that's previously been in an accident is not wrong and is done frequently. If they told you it had never been in an accident and it was, then that's another story. You'll need to have proof of that conversation, thus why you are always supposed to get things in writing. Used cars are often in accidents...part of being a used car. Even CPO'd cars can be in minor accidents. Not sure how much that's going to help you. If you like the car, it drives good, doesn't have issues, and you can get the paint to match, I say drive it and enjoy it and move on. The oil usage on the F10 M5's are pretty common.
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gearboxtrouble Second Lieutenant 134 Rep 246 Posts Drives: 2015 F82 M4 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston TX iTrader: (0)	Better call Saul. A missing VIN is a big deal.
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