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      10-21-2024, 08:44 PM   #23
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A lot of information. Unfortunately we don't have any great details on: Total time production to delivery.
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It’s hard to look at these records, it was interesting at first, but becomes unpleasant quickly. ToddRGuy , if you were planning to do data science on the responses, I think you’d be better off using some kind of survey system. I think google surveys might used to have been integrated into this website, haven’t looked at that in years. Maybe something else would work well. That way you have better control over things like date formatting and possible responses (like having to deal with with “nope” for “no”). You can edit your first post to summarize your findings.
Lol, yes, the disintegration and meteoric trip through the night sky, was spectacular but not quite what I anticipated.
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      10-21-2024, 09:00 PM   #25
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Model of G60 You Ordered: 540i, Oxide Grey
Date of Order: August 23, 2024
Original Production Date: Oct 21, 2024
Entered Quality Check: Oct 21, 2024
Entered Awaiting Carrier assignment: Oct 21, 2024
Entered Dispatched from Factory: Oct 21, 2024
Current Production Status: 190 - Dispatched from factory
Final Production Date: Oct 21, 2024
Vehicle Current Location (Country): Germany
Vehicle Destination Port: Galveston
Delivery Date: TBD,
Total Time Production to Delivery: TBD

On Friday, October 18, 2024 it was in Assembly in Progress. As I checked throughout the weekend it stayed in the same state and then this morning was dispatched to the factory. So maybe activity occurs over the weekend and the system just updates on weekedays.
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      10-21-2024, 09:06 PM   #26
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Model of G60 You Ordered: 540i, Oxide Grey
Date of Order: August 23, 2024
Original Production Date: Oct 21, 2024
Entered Quality Check: Oct 21, 2024
Entered Awaiting Carrier assignment: Oct 21, 2024
Entered Dispatched from Factory: Oct 21, 2024
Current Production Status: 190 - Dispatched from factory
Final Production Date: Oct 21, 2024
Vehicle Current Location (Country): Germany
Vehicle Destination Port: Galveston
Delivery Date: TBD,
Total Time Production to Delivery: TBD

On Friday, October 18, 2024 it was in Assembly in Progress. As I checked throughout the weekend it stayed in the same state and then this morning was dispatched to the factory. So maybe activity occurs over the weekend and the system just updates on weekedays.
This is great! And what I think most people would expect for the production timeline for a single vehicle. Wish we had a mole in the Dingolfing plant that could tell us why some vehicles sale through like a silver bullet, and others go crashing, skidding and burning into Quality Check, and not remediated for weeks or months at a time.
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      10-22-2024, 12:13 AM   #27
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That is weird. Makes you wonder if the ones that went through (like mine) didn't have issues.....or were they missed. And the ones stuck in limbo....was it because there is an issue, or because they simply stopped the line at that particular moment in time. I know actual production of my vehicle started before Todd's. As in earlier in the week. But they were both week 36 production. So what gives?
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      10-22-2024, 02:00 AM   #28
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That is weird. Makes you wonder if the ones that went through (like mine) didn't have issues.....or were they missed. And the ones stuck in limbo....was it because there is an issue, or because they simply stopped the line at that particular moment in time. I know actual production of my vehicle started before Todd's. As in earlier in the week. But they were both week 36 production. So what gives?
I have no idea. I'd really like to know their thought processes on remediation of vehicles that don't make it through. I know the day mine was produced (9/11), was the same day when the shit hit the fan about the IBS recalls for earlier factory models.

They closed the factory from Thursday (9/12) to the following Tuesday. The official news blurb was because of "decreased demand in China" but that doesn't hold water. How is pausing production for 5 days (or 7500 cars) going to somehow right the financials of a sluggish Chinese market?

More likely, a "Omg, which of these IBS parts are good or bad? Which vehicles are affected? Did we stop building with these?" type-moment and a need to regroup and stop the flat spin of the BMW aircraft known as Dingolfing before it pancaked into an open field and fire balled.

From my research and reading, their ability to get nearly any vehicle back on track after it hits a Quality Control snag is damn near abysmal. One guy's car sat in QC for 9.5 weeks because they couldn't get a B&O stereo system for it. Do you mean to tell me that in nearly 10 weeks, not one other vehicle of that model was built with a B&O system? Or did a thousand get build with them, and because it's in quality check, it gets delayed at getting addressed last?

I think their follow-through and transparency is so poor, that Audi or Mercedes could literally do a marketing campaign (assuming they have their shit together) under the pretense that "if you order a vehicle from us, we'll provide you with real transparency", upon any delay.

I'd almost guarantee that if that were to happen, BMW would have no choice but to sing like a canary in these situations, as it would be damn near impossible to continue hide behind some immutable wall of obfuscation and secrecy, with the poor souls in their Customer Service department dodging the incoming verbal bullets from annoyed consumers.
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      10-22-2024, 02:37 AM   #29
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Audi as part of VW group, it might be just a bit too early after their dieselgate to start and ad campaign

All joking aside.. here also waitiing....
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Audi as part of VW group, it might be just a bit too early after their dieselgate to start and ad campaign

All joking aside.. here also waitiing....
lol, is been a decade. In comparison to some of the other public spectacle we’ve endured since then, the general public likely has amnesia by now. 😂
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      10-22-2024, 06:43 AM   #31
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That is weird. Makes you wonder if the ones that went through (like mine) didn't have issues.....or were they missed. And the ones stuck in limbo....was it because there is an issue, or because they simply stopped the line at that particular moment in time. I know actual production of my vehicle started before Todd's. As in earlier in the week. But they were both week 36 production. So what gives?
I think your car has slipped through the perfect WK 36 window.

The IBS recall has been sorted by this point (as in they weren't producing cars with it) and the Steering Spindle recall only goes up to cars produced on September 4th.

When I check a VIN decoder my official production date IS September 4th and my car went from 150 on the first day of WK36 (September 2nd). I have a sneaky feeling your car might have a production date of September 5th onwards, I know you had to go via your broker for updates, but might be worth checking a VIN decoder or something.

The Steering recall was only announced on September 18th, the very day my car arrived at the dealership, so right up until that point my car was on the perfect track. If it had arrived a day earlier and I could have picked it up (I was on vacation so it is a what if...) I would be driving it right now just with an open recall on it....
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      10-22-2024, 07:07 AM   #32
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I think your car has slipped through the perfect WK 36 window.

The IBS recall has been sorted by this point (as in they weren't producing cars with it) and the Steering Spindle recall only goes up to cars produced on September 4th.

When I check a VIN decoder my official production date IS September 4th and my car went from 150 on the first day of WK36 (September 2nd). I have a sneaky feeling your car might have a production date of September 5th onwards, I know you had to go via your broker for updates, but might be worth checking a VIN decoder or something.

The Steering recall was only announced on September 18th, the very day my car arrived at the dealership, so right up until that point my car was on the perfect track. If it had arrived a day earlier and I could have picked it up (I was on vacation so it is a what if...) I would be driving it right now just with an open recall on it....
Still makes no sense. My car has been at the port since Aug 26th.
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I think your car has slipped through the perfect WK 36 window.

The IBS recall has been sorted by this point (as in they weren't producing cars with it) and the Steering Spindle recall only goes up to cars produced on September 4th.

When I check a VIN decoder my official production date IS September 4th and my car went from 150 on the first day of WK36 (September 2nd). I have a sneaky feeling your car might have a production date of September 5th onwards, I know you had to go via your broker for updates, but might be worth checking a VIN decoder or something.

The Steering recall was only announced on September 18th, the very day my car arrived at the dealership, so right up until that point my car was on the perfect track. If it had arrived a day earlier and I could have picked it up (I was on vacation so it is a what if...) I would be driving it right now just with an open recall on it....
While I can't get any VIN decoder to show me production date, it does show 0 recalls. So maybe I just got lucky being in the sweet spot. Or, since it's a US Spec vehicle being sold and delivered in the EU, it's not popping. And once I ship it to the USA it will pop as needing repairs. But the NHTSA website decodes the vin and shows 0 recalls as well.
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Still makes no sense. My car has been at the port since Aug 26th.
That kind of makes perfect sense to me, your car is right in the window of potentially the IBS AND Spindle production runs.

The word on this forum was that IBS cars only stopped being produced about circa mid August and by this point the Spindle issue was on the production line, affecting cars from end of July to September 4th.
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Model of G60 You Ordered: i5 e40
Date of Order: mid-Aug '24
Original Production Date: Genius line is saying it will start building 3rd week of January

Everything else TBD.
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Here is my list FWIW. Car was a swap with another dealer and was already in production. Was in QC for 3+ weeks and then went to Bremerhaven in 2 days where it waited for 2 weeks. Dealer has said there are no recalls or stop sales. No special order items. But DAP, Premium, BW sound. Going to be wife's car replaced MB E wagon. Good luck to everyone being delayed.
Model of G60 You Ordered: 530ix
Date of Order: 09/23/24
Original Production Date: Approx 10/10/24
Current Production Status: In Transit
Final Production Date: 10/10/24
Vehicle Current Location (Country): On Boat
Vehicle Destination Port: New York
Delivery Date: November 11
Total Time Production to Delivery: Unknown
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That kind of makes perfect sense to me, your car is right in the window of potentially the IBS AND Spindle production runs.

The word on this forum was that IBS cars only stopped being produced about circa mid August and by this point the Spindle issue was on the production line, affecting cars from end of July to September 4th.
Mine has neither the IBS or Spindle recall impacting it and is STILL in QC after 6 weeks, as of tomorrow. I guess there could be a shortage with a component in one of the packages, as I did order every single option. Executive, DAPP, Luxury seating and B&O, but my god, they can’t get it back on track after a month and a half with other cars being produced with all of them? Unreal.
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AHHH I don't know, I want to believe that there is some sort of pattern to it...

But as it stands I am making it up - I have nothing better to do than speculate on the internet with my fellow sufferers
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Model of G60 You Ordered: 540i xDrive
Date of Order: 06/17/24
Original Production Date: 9/02/24
Current Production Status: Arrived at Port of Exit
Final Production Date: 09/04/24
Vehicle Current Location (Country): USA/New Jersey
Vehicle Destination Port: NJ/NY VPC
Delivery Date: TBD (Steering Spindle Recall)
Total Time Production to Delivery: N/A
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AHHH I don't know, I want to believe that there is some sort of pattern to it...

But as it stands I am making it up - I have nothing better to do than speculate on the internet with my fellow sufferers
lol, as a scientist and healthcare professional, I appreciate logic. I guess perhaps I’m looking for some semblance of order in their processes.

Hell, for all I know they could simply be throwing jello against the wall and seeing what sticks to determine which vehicle gets remediated next.

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Just noticed - my week 37 550e has been assigned to a carrier to the port.

I'll feel better when I see that it is on the water...
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And as of today mine is on a truck now to the port. Surprised to say the least. Will be curious now which sailing it takes.
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!Update!
Model of G60 You Ordered: 550e
Date of Order: July 26, 2024
Original Production Date: Sept 4, 2024
Entered Quality Check: Sept 5, 2024
Entered Awaiting Carrier assignment: Oct 14, 2024
Entered Dispatched from Factory: Oct 21, 2024
Entered At the Port: October 22, 2024
Current Production Status: 193 - At the Port

Final Production Date: Oct 14, 2024
Vehicle Current Location (Country): Germany
Vehicle Destination Port: Baltimore
Delivery Date: TBD,
Total Time Production to Delivery: TBD
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Hell, for all I know they could simply be throwing jello against the wall and seeing what sticks to determine which vehicle gets remediated next.
Let's remember that these cars are made in Germany - a country known for its engineering and procedure. It's highly unlikely that they are throwing Jello against the wall.

It's more likely BMW is throwing spaetzle.

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