[///M Power-Belgium]

In 3....2....1

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Hold your horses.

PER and VER were summoned to be heard by the stewards from 19h15 onwards.

Jury is still out: still no decision published.

At risk for a time penalty, and so a drop from P1 and P3. All 4 arrived within 3 seconds (0 | 1s154 | 1s492 | 2s922).

For example a 5 or 10 second penalty for both would mean P1 and P2 for SAI and LEC + P3 and P4 for PER and VER. RUS (P5) arrived 11s968 after PER.

Ferrari have withdrawn the protest on Perez.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Hold your horses.

PER and VER were summoned to be heard by the stewards from 19h15 onwards.

Jury is still out: still no decision published.

At risk for a time penalty, and so a drop from P1 and P3. All 4 arrived within 3 seconds (0 | 1s154 | 1s492 | 2s922).

For example a 5 or 10 second penalty for both would mean P1 and P2 for SAI and LEC + P3 and P4 for PER and VER. RUS (P5) arrived 11s968 after PER.

What for? Hope it's not picky bullshit!!!

I'm not big on penalties deciding a race even if it would give the win to Ferrari

[///M Power-Belgium]

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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[Killed by Death]

Red flag at Indy ending....4 laps to go

[Artemis]

Just in: complaints of Ferrari have been dismissed.

Perez: "Ferrari conceded that Car 11 did not have any part of its front or rear tyres on the
left of the yellow line and conceded"
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...20Car%2011.pdf

Verstappen: "All parties agreed that Car 1 did have part of its front left and rear left tyre on the left side of the yellow line. All parties agreed that most of the left front and left rear tyres of that car remained on the yellow line."
"the car did not “cross” the line – to do so it would have needed to have a full wheel to the left of the yellow line."
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...%20Car%201.pdf

Ferrari has a right to appeal.

So it looks like stewards decided in the same way as regarding track limits violations: wheels may drive on the track limits lines and partially past, but not fully past.

[M5Rick]

Breaking news Max in the clear also after Fia reject Ferrari protest, they had no chance with that desperate accusation.

[GuidoK]

These are some screenshots of Max' pit exit from LEC's view.
I think Checo crossed the line more.(lots of footage of that)

To me this doesn't look like Max crossing the line. Maybe his rear wheel touched the line (his front wheel for sure didn't):

I'm sure that if you would examine every exit from the race you would find examples of drivers crossing that line more.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

These are some screenshots of Max' pit exit from LEC's view.
I think Checo crossed the line more.(lots of footage of that)

To me this doesn't look like Max crossing the line. Maybe his rear wheel touched the line (his front wheel for sure didn't):

I'm sure that if you would examine every exit from the race you would find examples of drivers crossing that line more.

Yup. It was clear VER crossed the line on the replay during the race but is it enough to penalize? We'll see if rules are rules or if it's just to the discretion of whoever has final say.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

[COLOR="Black"]Breaking news[/COLOR] Max in the clear also after Fia reject Ferrari protest, they had no chance with that desperate accusation.

I seem to remember LEC getting away with one earlier this season so I'm good. That's a chicken $hit protest anyway.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

That's a chicken $hit protest anyway.

That's for sure

Ferrari is getting desperate. If they can't win on a bumpy twisty track that favours their car, it's going to be harder on fast tracks.

...but it won't be the first time that a team looses from RB because of making too many strategic failures in a year

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

That's for sure

I'm sure it was done for the bean counters! SAI wouldn't want to win that way.

[M5Rick]

I see this time there was a professional chequered flag waver at end of race as opposed to the amateurish one last year.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Jiren

So weird F1 has cameras covering every mm of the track but no one has footage of the red bulls exiting the pits. Ferrari filed a complaint that both drivers crossed the line when rejoining the track

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Yup. It was clear VER crossed the line on the replay during the race but is it enough to penalize? We'll see if rules are rules or if it's just to the discretion of whoever has final say.

Read the decision of the stewards: left wheels of VER were still on the line. If a wheel would have been fully left of the yellow line ("crossing"), it was a violation.

Same applies to qualifying: a lap time is deleted if a wheel is fully next to the line (off-track). As well as during a race: black & white flag after 3 warnings of fully crossing track limits.

Now if Ferrari can show video footage of a wheel of VER fully left of the yellow line upon exiting the pitlane, it will have a case for appeal.

If teams want the yellow pitlane line to be considered a "wall" that may not be touched with wheels, rules should be modified.

[F87source]

Man sucks for lec, Ferrari showing off their clown face again... It might have been too good to be true, Ferrari just can't cope with pressure.

[Rono63]

It's strange that Ferrari stays with Binotto when he has been making bad strategic decisions for years. He cost Vettel some victories.

Glad to see Checo win.

[F87source]

On a side note a decent video analyzing how teams progressed with fixing porpoising:

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I see this time there was a professional chequered flag waver at end of race as opposed to the amateurish one last year.

I was paying attention to exact the same thing

[Killed by Death]

Indy threw a Red Flag with 4 laps remaining to finish under Green...Just sayin'

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by F87source

On a side note a decent video analyzing how teams progressed with fixing porpoising:

at 2:50 sam collins says "...mercedes and they've really improved significantly, and we'll come back to that"
Except they don't come back to that.
I really hate it when things like that are said in video's...
Anyway, we all know now that the insanely stiff suspension setup with a low ride height of the MERC's is part of their solution against porpoising next to their new floor.
I wonder how that's going to be next week in Baku. Another street circuit. Maybe not as bumpy as Monaco (I really don't know tbh), but very high speeds.
The MERC's have top speed, but will it be enough?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

///M Power-Belgium my other EX

I still love some of my (too many) EX's ...

Too bad !

Thanks for sharing ...