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I have read very little of this thread, so maybe this question has been asked and answered already. I live in Chicago proper. I think it’s a pretty fair estimate that 50% (possibly more) of cars here use street parking. What are the EV proponents proposing for charging these cars? I have never seen this question addressed or even asked in the media or anywhere else that pushes EVs.
I live in a condo building. Our building is relatively new, but it wasn’t built with charging electric cars in mind. We have a 180 car parking garage. We have one condo owner who has a Tesla. The condo association agreed to allow him to install a charging station. Fortunately for him his parking space is next to a column where his charger is mounted. Many of the parking spaces have no structure next to them where a charger could be mounted. I suppose a charger could be mounted on a stand installed at the front of the parking space. However, when the association allowed the installation of the charger for the one owner we were told by the electrician it was the only one our building’s infrastructure could support. There is no separate electric meter for his station, so he pays an estimation of what the electricity costs directly to the association. The association was told the building would require a $300,000 improvement in the electrical infrastructure to support the installation of charging stations throughout the garage. That’s just the basic electrical infrastructure. It does not include the cost of the installation of the actual charging stations.
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Tough topic and great question. It comes up often and is obviously completely legit. The above article addresses it. |
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08-21-2023, 05:22 PM | #3656 | |
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It's time to move on this one is pale n stale if ur holding it...now with your wisdom of having lucked out tell us what's the next big un so we save our money meant for ev and use it to cash out |
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08-21-2023, 06:04 PM | #3657 | |
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Of the three largest U.S. cities New York has the largest public transportation system and Chicago has the second largest system and the second highest ridership after New York City. And yet, in Chicago there are more neighborhoods that don’t have really easy access to the L than there are neighborhoods that do. So, despite the thoughts of encouraging car owners to give up their cars and take public transportation I can assure them that is not going to happen. And in the city big parking lots where people might leave their cars to charge do not exist even if people were willing to use them. Basically, the only truly feasible way you are going to get street parkers to charge their electric cars is to have free standing charging stations up and down the streets. Thinking of improving and/or expanding public transportation in Chicago. Right this minute the Chicago Transportation Authority is in the midst of rehabbing a two mile span of its 100 year old infrastructure at a cost of $2.1 billion. The CTA has 224 miles of train tracks. This includes completely new infrastructure and rebuilding four train stations. A proposed plan to extend the Red Line to serve more of the south side of Chicago has a projected cost of $3.6 billion. And, of course, we all know what would happen to that number if they actually did it. Crain’s Chicago Business says it’s not worth it. Too much cost and not enough gain. https://www.chicagobusiness.com/opin...%20the%20world. How the EV folks think all of the infrastructure to make their grand EV future feasible is going to be paid for is just beyond me.
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Here the local convenience stores have Tesla superchargers. I went in around 6:00am a couple weeks ago and the convenience store was empty except for staff. (today's students don't get up that early). There were 7 EV's on the Tesla superchargers and not a person to be found. My conclusion is the students leave the EV's on the chargers and get a ride to and from their apartments.
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New business opportunity: Uber EV rides to and from charging stations?
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Goeff explains what some EV buyers don't want to know.
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When you buy a used ICE you can do a compression test as part of a PPI and have a really good idea of the condition of the car.
When you buy a used EV do you know? How many charge cycles? What were the average battery discharge rates? How many fast charges were used? If the car was outdoor in hot weather? If the Batteries were regularly charged beyond 80%? If the Batteries were regularly discharged beyond 20%? https://www.cars.com/articles/your-g...vation-446126/ I have never seen anything about internal resistance being checked in EV batteries. There is a lot of information on this in the radio controlled racing. IR is used to determine the life and quality of a LiPo battery For those who read science: https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...5248472100305X |
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I broke down and bought a Tesla Y. We have 5 cars and it just makes sense to have 1 EV amongst them as a hedge against high fuel prices. It take a little getting used to how it drives and does not handle like a 340i but boy it sure accelerates like one. As far as charging, it only makes sense to make sure you can charge at home at a high rate with 40amps or more to retain your sanity because waiting at stations for long periods of time. Stations are few and far between and many of the ports are often times broken or down. Its just frustrating.
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