[Steeler]

Be careful, the "other side" may put a Vulcan Mind Meld on ya.

[5.M0NSTER]

So THAT'S where the 28 extra HP comes from!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

I find the speculation about Mercedes cheating to be hilarious. Looking at the demographic of Mercedes owners, the risk averse nature of the board, and the downside risk to the brand that may result from cheating, ANYONE who has a modicum of the knowledge of corporate governance would know that it won't happen.

Now let's look at the demographic of a Red Bull customer and their target audience: Red Bull target customer segment represent busy individuals who are overly active in their personal and professional lives and who have are fascinated by extreme sports. Red Bull can, has, and will tolerate cheating. It may actually enhance the brand.

Cheers-mk

Not hilarious for the other nine teams that have to suffer a Merc GP nearly every time.
Merc corporation, the very name would ensure a huge almost impenetrable security net around any anomalies I would imagine.
You have a good day now.

[SenorFunkyPants]

I don't know if this has been posted before .....but in case not, Mercedes F1 have their own youtube channel and do a post race debrief.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPeaches

Since we're leaving stuff here....

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/64680...-the-w11-.html

"Honda is closest to Mercedes when it comes to pure power. The engine manufacturer is 28 HP behind. Renault now lags 37 HP, while Ferrari has 42 less HP to use than Mercedes."

Well said.. 1 sec. faster over one lap is a sea of time !

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

150+hp doesn't come from a split turbo,DAS passed and tyre cooling passed so as you read already Todt has black colour under pants as well as red

Check this out my friend !

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well said.. 1 sec. faster over one lap is a sea of time !

Absolutely it is. But, let's stop with the nonsense that its because the Mercs have 150+ more horsepower.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Check this out my friend !

Interesting my friend but let's look at Eifel from another perspective. BOT passed HAM for the first time fair and square...(but he's no.2 and shouldn't happen... Schumacher snr's race helmet was ready...did Toto pull plug and it's the first dnf for Merc this year, it's an unhealthy stack of events.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Interesting my friend but let's look at Eifel from another perspective. BOT passed HAM for the first time fair and square...(but he's no.2 and shouldn't happen... Schumacher snr's race helmet was ready...did Toto pull plug and it's the first dnf for Merc this year, it's an unhealthy stack of events.

Yes my friend . That's what I was thinking during the race as well ...
I thought , is this situation coincidental or actually suspicious !

Of course we'll never know ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yes my friend . That's what I was thinking during the race as well ...
I thought , is this situation coincidental or actually suspicious !

Of course we'll never know ...

As I have said, the Merc corporation would have a cast iron ring of steel failsafe in place for 'explanation' of BOT car turning into a clapped out Skoda.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Not hilarious for the other nine teams that have to suffer a Merc GP nearly every time.
Merc corporation, the very name would ensure a huge almost impenetrable security net around any anomalies I would imagine.
You have a good day now.

The thing is, we have 2 separate categories of competing. Driver's, and Constructor's championships.

Drivers being equal, the better car will net more wins.

So why are you going after Daimler for developing a better car AND having better drivers?

Go after Red Bull for developing an inferior car. Had they done a better design job, maybe the driver could achieve better results.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

The thing is, we have 2 separate categories of competing. Driver's, and Constructor's championships.

Drivers being equal, the better car will net more wins.

So why are you going after Daimler for developing a better car AND having better drivers?

Go after Red Bull for developing an inferior car. Had they done a better design job, maybe the driver could achieve better results.

This was reported in February 2017,Lauda passed away in May 2019 and did not deny saying it. Merc had huge advantage when hybrids brought in it's not only RB who lost out.
https://www.grandprix247.com/2017/02...ne-since-2007/

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

This was reported in February 2017,Lauda passed away in May 2019 and did not deny saying it. Merc had huge advantage when hybrids brought in it's not only RB who lost out.
https://www.grandprix247.com/2017/02...ne-since-2007/

And Merc is likely already working on the PU for 2026 and beyond.

So my question is why were all others so short sighted then, and why aren't they working on next gen PUs now?

Merc will only secure their future victories by being long sighted. None of this is cheating. It's strategic thinking. When you plan far enough ahead, you give yourself the time to develop better solutions sooner, and give yourself more options in the possible solution space.

[SenorFunkyPants]

All F1 engine manufacturers knew 5 years in advance what the new engine regs would be.
As noted its just sour grapes to blame Merc for doing a better job.
Note that no one is crying about what a great job Red Bull has done with its superior aero package.

[MKSixer]

It was up but taken down rather quickly, I was told. I imagine this will upset a few...

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

I don't know if this has been posted before .....but in case not, Mercedes F1 have their own youtube channel and do a post race debrief.

Salt, may I introduce you to our good friend, Wound?

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

It was up but taken down rather quickly, I was told. I imagine this will upset a few...

I don't even like Hamilton, but that's funny.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

It was up but taken down rather quickly, I was told. I imagine this will upset a few...

Epic.

Given the disparity of victories I can sort of understand this view point. Also why many find F1 boring these days

[///M Power-Belgium]

"Valentino Rossi" has the damn F* virus !

Seems to be everywhere . "Disaster" !!!

[CalAcacian]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

"Valentino Rossi" has the damn F* virus !

Seems to be everywhere . "Disaster" !!!

Looks like Hulkenberg has a flight to catch.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

It was up but taken down rather quickly, I was told. I imagine this will upset a few...

Oh well, misprints do happen

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

"Valentino Rossi" has the damn F* virus !

Seems to be everywhere . "Disaster" !!!

I wouldn't say lightning can strike twice my friend but he missed death by a whisker from Zarco's flying m/bike and now he's tested plus for covid.