[M3WC]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Looks like Mercedes has made progress with fixing the W13. RB is still the superior car and unfortunately, seems like Ferrari has come back down to earth.

They picked up about .250 sec in race pace with new upgrades. They are now about .9 sec behind front runner. Russell was down 9.3 sec after 10 laps. They were well over a 1 sec down in race pace prior to this weekend.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Did he closed his 22 sec. gap in just 7 laps with his softs ? Yes he did !
Was he at that moment 'with his DRS failures , 3 sec. faster than the rest ? Yes he did !

Sleep well mate !

He is clearly bothered by the outcome of the race.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by M3WC

He is clearly bothered by the outcome of the race.

yeah it's a tough call to decide what's better: Max winning and taking the lead in the WDC or seeing a HAMtroll getting really butthurt...

[M5Rick]

HAM can't complain much he got 10 points and driver of day too to boot so defo not a disaster for him.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by M3WC

They picked up about .250 sec in race pace with new upgrades. They are now about .9 sec behind front runner. Russell was down 9.3 sec after 10 laps. They were well over a 1 sec down in race pace prior to this weekend.

With a big part of the W13 "figured out", it's all about setting up the car for race weekends - see how much more performance and race pace can be found. 75 points is a significant deficit to overcome now that RB seems to be finishing races and Ferrari losing one or both drivers but at least Mercedes can make it somewhat interesting with a lot of races left.

Hopefully Ferrari can figure it out. Feel for Leclerc because he was slowly putting together a great season only now to be let down but the car.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

HAM can't complain much he got 10 points and driver of day too to boot so defo not a disaster for him.

He had a great race, considering what happened to him.
He and RUS both had a good weekend, MERC is clearly improving the car. Their top speed is very good, porpoising seems less.
But I wonder how much of their budget and CFD time and windtunnel time has been blown on their development.

I think the biggest disappointments were SAI and Haas.
SAI not only because of that spin but also having a really really bad start, and that's not the first time this season.
And Haas didn't perform. Kmag making that stupid mistake (I see it more a Kmag mistake than a HAM mistake) and MSC also plummiting through the standings.

I wonder if the retirement of Zhou has a similar reason to the engine failure of LEC.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Did he closed his 22 sec. gap in just 7 laps with his softs ? Yes he did !
Was he at that moment 'with his DRS failures , 3 sec. faster than the rest ? Yes he did !

Sleep well mate !

No DRS and Max still blitzed them all, shows the 18 is all conquering in race mode as the fuel goes down with his gentle touch on the bends to preserve the rubber..as 911 driver slow in then fast out

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . The Mercedes improved a lot ..
But RUS and HAM got overheating issues.

I wouldn't be too concerned with the overheating issues. I think it was reported in race that the water hoses were leaking, something that is easily fixable and not something more major.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

He had a great race, considering what happened to him.
He and RUS both had a good weekend, MERC is clearly improving the car. Their top speed is very good, porpoising seems less.
But I wonder how much of their budget and CFD time and windtunnel time has been blown on their development.

I think the biggest disappointments were SAI and Haas.
SAI not only because of that spin but also having a really really bad start, and that's not the first time this season.
And Haas didn't perform. Kmag making that stupid mistake (I see it more a Kmag mistake than a HAM mistake) and MSC also plummiting through the standings.

I wonder if the retirement of Zhou has a similar reason to the engine failure of LEC.

I'm not on live F1 tv so I'll watch it shortly on ch4 tv.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M3WC

He is clearly bothered by the outcome of the race.

Yeah . Just like last year , the hate is strong with this one ...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

I wouldn't be too concerned with the overheating issues. I think it was reported in race that the water hoses were leaking, something that is easily fixable and not something more major.

I just read that both Mercedes PU's have been replaced .
But also that the PU's have been pulled to the max. HP output ...

Same for the Ferrari PU's ..

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I just read that both Mercedes PU's have been replaced .
But also that the PU's have been pulled to the max. HP output ...

Same for the Ferrari PU's ..

Couldn't have done HAM's one good at all with overheating on the new unit and ordered to use 50% throttle to just stay ahead of BOT.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Jiren

Did he spin out due to a gust of wind? Yes. Did he spend an eternity stuck behind a much slower Merc? Yes, and spare me the drs excuse. Did he get lucky with leclerc engine failure? Yes. Did he get team orders to move checo out of his way? Yes. So tell me which part of the race did i miss you utter ��������?

...and still takes the victory.

As you seem to be rather unfamiliar with F1: feel free to check some info:

• about the benefits of DRS + how to spot it to be active/inactive on an F1 car;
• about how DNF favors competitors (examples: Azerbaijan 2021 - Silverstone 2021 - Bahrain 2022 - Australia 2022);
• about team orders regarding Verstappen-Perez, Hamilton-Bottas, Vettel-Webber, Alonso-Massa, Schumacher-Barrichello, etc.

And about the embarrassment of getting off track: let's agree that it's less dishonorable if it's mainly caused by a gust of strong sea wind or by a competitor of another team, than by your own team mate. Mowing the lawn in 2016 at the same circuit - no gust of strong sea wind involved:

But I fully agree that Russell did a great job again, squeezing the best out of the W13. Whether the very talented 24 year young Russell is as capable as the 24 year young Hamilton, is debatable. But in 2022 he definitely outperforms the 37 year old Hamilton operating with the same gear, but with an older body. If Verstappen, Leclerc and Russell would all be driving the same car, the result would be unpredictable.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by E92inPHX

I’m quite surprised by the tire strategies for the race, I’d thought everyone would go for a 2 stopper starting on mediums and then switching to mediums-hards or hards-mediums. Very surprised the top runners didn’t use hards at all seeing how this track was just chewing through the tires.

I think there was lack of grip with hards by the high tarmac temps .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Don't pay any attention to him.
He's just very very very butthurt that RB just took the lead in both the WDC and WCC. An excellent result.
The nice thing for us is that he really lets it show
That makes the fun for us even greater

I couldn't agree more ...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

With a big part of the W13 "figured out", it's all about setting up the car for race weekends - see how much more performance and race pace can be found. 75 points is a significant deficit to overcome now that RB seems to be finishing races and Ferrari losing one or both drivers but at least Mercedes can make it somewhat interesting with a lot of races left.

Hopefully Ferrari can figure it out. Feel for Leclerc because he was slowly putting together a great season only now to be let down but the car.

Same for MAX . He lost 50 driver points by 2 DNF .

Yeah . Too bad for Ferrari and Charlie !

On the other hand : Sainz is a waste of time at Ferrari ...

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Artemis

And about the embarrassment of getting off track:
...
Mowing the lawn in 2016 at the same circuit - no gust of strong sea wind involved:

Track marshalls congratulating Hammie on a job well done!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Si Señor !!!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I just read that both Mercedes PU's have been replaced .
But also that the PU's have been pulled to the max. HP output ...

Same for the Ferrari PU's ..

Watching the race now on ch 4.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Jiren

The greatest driver ever in history and the first ever Human Error World Champion spins on his own and cant overtake a much slower mercedes 😂😂😂😂😂

Your comment during the race didn't age well, to say the least.

You now got a week to let it all sink in. New chance for you to hope for a DNF next Sunday in crash town: Monte Carlo.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Mr Pete

Adrian Newey is the man!

He's great at aero but the worst cyclist on earth

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Track marshalls congratulating Hammie on a job well done!

Hey what's he doing on the gravel.