[fcman]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

How is that Solyndra, Abound Solar or A123 Systems doing?

What's up with you and these nonsensical logical reaches? Because some orgs failed the entire industry lacks viability? Yes, the fossil fuel and nuclear energy sectors have definitely had no failures or massive financial waste

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I'm absolutely a "tree Hugger" The bulk of my earning years were in the outdoor industry. I worry about anyone who isn't a tree hugger but I believe in investments in environmentally sound technologies and not government funded boondoggles. How is that Solyndra, Abound Solar or A123 Systems doing? The money being pissed away on this green fallacy could make a massive impact on energy effecient heating and cooling and building construction, but it really isn't about the environment is it?

Me too! I own 40 acres of virgin forest and most of my house was built in the 1850s. The average age of my vehicle fleet is 17 years and 245,000 miles. Maybe I am a Luddite...

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Me too! I own 40 acres of virgin forest and most of my house was built in the 1850s. The average age of my vehicle fleet is 17 years and 245,000 miles. Maybe I am a Luddite...

You definitely are, idk about the other guy though lol, still trying to figure him out. You were much easier

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by fcman

You definitely are, idk about the other guy though lol, still trying to figure him out. You were much easier

You are too easy. Lol. I've actually spent a 30+ year career injecting new technology into both the American military and civilian culture. Enjoy.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by fcman

What's up with you and these nonsensical logical reaches? Because some orgs failed the entire industry lacks viability? Yes, the fossil fuel and nuclear energy sectors have definitely had no failures or massive financial waste

Who paid for these failed green grifts, tax payers. (by the way I just picked three that came to mind, the true green fails/grifts numbers are quite substantial.)

Yes fossil fuel and nuclear energy sectors have failures but for the most part the costs are paid by the corporations who own them and yes often forwarded to their customers. When the thumb of government is off the scales the free market will determine the winners or losers and that is not what is happening.

Just to spice it up a little, my college time was spent in Stratigraphy and Comp Sci to go find coal, gas and oil.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Who paid for these failed green grifts, tax payers. (by the way I just picked three that came to mind, the true green fails/grifts numbers are quite substantial.)

Yes fossil fuel and nuclear energy sectors have failures but for the most part the costs are paid by the corporations who own them and yes often forwarded to their customers. When the thumb of government is off the scales the free market will determine the winners or losers and that is not what is happening.

Yeah the government definitely does not assist the fossil fuel companies in any way...

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Just to spice it up a little, my college time was spent in Stratigraphy and Comp Sci to go find coal, gas and oil.

Shocker.

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

You are too easy. Lol. I've actually spent a 30+ year career injecting new technology into both the American military and civilian culture. Enjoy.

The biggest technology dummies I know are my older coworkers (I'm a software engineer). So I'm sticking with my analysis

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by fcman

Yeah the government definitely does not assist the fossil fuel companies in any way...




Shocker.



The biggest technology dummies I know are my older coworkers (I'm a software engineer). So I'm sticking with my analysis

One aspect of my job is to re-write proposals because most every (software) engineer I work with can't write English worth shit.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by fcman

Yeah the government definitely does not assist the fossil fuel companies in any way...

I wouldn't run with the exploration tax break non sense. By the way would you like me to list some of the products that are manufactured from petroleum? Here, I'll make it easy, almost everything.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

One aspect of my job is to re-write proposals because most every (software) engineer I work with can't write English worth shit.

Ah lol, so you're not even IN technology lol. You didnt really need to out yourself so readily. Just your average, emasculated boomer desk jockey, peak luddite material

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I wouldn't run with the exploration tax break non sense. By the way would you like me to list some of the products that are manufactured from petroleum? Here, I'll make it easy, almost everything.

Are you sure you worked in Comp Sci? If your code is as jumbled as your logic, color me terrified

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Here in the US, Harley Davidson spun off its EV motorcycle to a separate division called Live Wire. Neat bike. About 100 mile range. But you really can't ride it anywhere...

Can't really go touring in it as you say and brings the question where you can charge it if you do try it, can't be same as EV tesla plug or others.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by fcman

Ah lol, so you're not even IN technology lol. You didnt really need to out yourself so readily. Just your average, emasculated boomer desk jockey, peak luddite material

Well if by "in" you mean cannot write technical proposals to earn a living, yeah that's not me; I earn a great living at it.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Well if by "in" you mean cannot write technical proposals to earn a living, yeah that's not me; I earn a great living at it.

I mean, my father is in his 60s and does the same thing, still calls me for IT support. He also hates electric cars

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Can't really go touring in it as you say and brings the question where you can charge it if you do try it, can't be same as EV tesla plug or others.

As a sport bike it would be quite fun. I already live in the mountains so, I don't have to "get here" to ride great roads. But for city folk who ride "out here" to run all the great roads, it's an issue with the Live Wire. The problem is there is just not enough space in the chassis for a high-capacty charger, so it's a slow recovery process. It plugs into a Level 2 charger; it just can't move the juice into the battery that fast.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by fcman

I mean, my father is in his 60s and does the same thing, still calls me for IT support. He also hates electric cars

Right, because software is so... reliable.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Right, because software is so... reliable.

You're really selling that "I'm not a luddite" facade really well

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Here in the US, Harley Davidson spun off its EV motorcycle to a separate division called Live Wire. Neat bike. About 100 mile range. But you really can't ride it anywhere...

And the Isle of Man TT has a separate category for EV bikes which are still not running the same times as the Superbikes. The EV category was dropped in 2022 due to lack of entrants.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

fcman is subbing in well for BGM

[KRS_SN]

Fabulous conversation today
Walking the dogs and a dog I knew usually walked by a 50 years ish aged couple came along being walked by an old man...so I ask..
"oh im so and so's dad...we had to come from a town 3 hours away to walk the dogs..our kids have flown to Zagreb.. its so hot in Europe.. global warming..climate change..why do people drive these polluting cars...they don't care about the world"
I just smiled and nodded on..and moved on..
you sir and you kids are the problem..not I or ice driving guys etc..

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by fcman

Agreed, it takes no skill to drive fast in an electric car or a bike, they are very similar in that way and the people they appeal to, just in different tax brackets. Hence "lowest common denominator"

Or an Automatic M 3/4

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

A Luddite is someone who still spins vinyl and thinks an LP from a 100,000 consumer pressing run when played on a Technics direct-drive turntable provides better fidelity than a .wav file.

I still have a set of 1200’s in mint condition. Serato changed the game back then. No more carrying tons of vinyl. Thank god

[StradaRedlands]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

A Luddite is someone who still spins vinyl and thinks an LP from a 100,000 consumer pressing run when played on a Technics direct-drive turntable provides better fidelity than a .wav file.

Did someone call me?