[DomMuc]

F52 will be produced for Chinese Market only........

[1wmb]

Originally Posted by DomMuc

F52 will be produced for Chinese Market only........

speculation or knowledge?

[DomMuc]

knowledge.....

[Teutonic]

It seems that mr Scott answers only when is convenient...
Mr.Scott, can you answer to some questions too, or you are replying only when somebody agrees with you?

[vladberca]

I really like the 1 series LCI.
I'm curious how the sales will evolve and this might give an answer to the necessity for the FWD move.

[flyaway]

The sales were always good, I think you don't see the picture very clearly: the only necessity for the FWD move is BMW making more money by selling a cheaper (and rather pathetic) product, the future "BMW Corolla" (like someone was rightfully stating)... And by the way, your vision incidentally encourage that direction... it will sell for what it looks (a carefully adjusted marketing badge), not for what really it's anymore.

[Pentium]

It's really getting more sad everyday with BMW....
I don't know...

FWD competitor? Active Tourer? FWD X1? XCite?

[EzequielR]

Shape reminds me of a VW

[GJR]

Originally Posted by EzequielR

Shape reminds me of a VW

Exactly my thoughts. Look at that terribly awkward front overhang. No disguising the front wheel drive architecture.

[KGB_123_99]

Originally Posted by GJR

Exactly my thoughts. Look at that terribly awkward front overhang. No disguising the front wheel drive architecture.

I was about to post about the front overhang...looks dreadful...

[spool twice]

For a FWD car with a transverse engine, I actually find the proportions pleasing to the eye.

[BetoVera]

Looks like a Volvo s40

[rf1979bmw]

IMO... it has the best proportions of any FWD car, based on the visible lines of the car.

it looks like the latest pics from this car will be at the top or near-top of the line with those big wheels and nicer stance. i like that the wheel gap is not as hideous as gti's or a3/s3.

[marcva]

I was hoping (and still am) for a 2 series 4 door to update my 332i (US E36M) 4 door. I'll be plowing a little more money into my current car to tide me over for a couple more years while I wait and see. I really like the size of my car, though the chassis is aging, and I can only bolt on sooo many parts to refresh it. I suppose I haven't tried an S54 yet. I'll just keep recycling the old stuff until I see something new that compels me.

Also, I truly do appreciate the RWD functionality as a BMWCCA instructor who spends time on the track and skidpad. FWD on a skidpad (or in snow) is not quite as entertaining.

[Ghillie]

I am so disappointed with BMW because of this model. We don't need a 1-series sedan! Not one that looks like this, did they forget how to make a BMW!? Like seriously, it looks so much like a Volvo, and what's up with the rear?

I will without a doubt send them a letter of complaint because of this, or better yet a petition, to see how many real BMW enthusiast would be upset over this decision they're deciding to make.

I've been following BMW for 10years now and have always been impressed by the art, design, & quality they output with their cars.

I mean, every BMW they've made has had a huge resemblance to their whole line of cars, whether it's a 3-series to the Z or X. They pull off what many other car manufactures don't, which is originality and one look to differ themselves from other companies.

Please BMW, don't make this model, or please redesign and think throughly about your company and what you stand for.

[Matski]

Originally Posted by GJR

Exactly my thoughts. Look at that terribly awkward front overhang. No disguising the front wheel drive architecture.

If this ends up having the same front overhang as the FWD 2 series Active Tourer, then it will still have a shorter front overhang than an E39.

Originally Posted by Ghillie

I am so disappointed with BMW because of this model. We don't need a 1-series sedan! Not one that looks like this, did they forget how to make a BMW!? Like seriously, it looks so much like a Volvo, and what's up with the rear?

I will without a doubt send them a letter of complaint because of this, or better yet a petition, to see how many real BMW enthusiast would be upset over this decision they're deciding to make.

I've been following BMW for 10years now and have always been impressed by the art, design, & quality they output with their cars.

I mean, every BMW they've made has had a huge resemblance to their whole line of cars, whether it's a 3-series to the Z or X. They pull off what many other car manufactures don't, which is originality and one look to differ themselves from other companies.

Please BMW, don't make this model, or please redesign and think throughly about your company and what you stand for.

I think the more sensible option would be to wait and see what it looks like without camouflage, and plastic cladding, and in it's final production trim. I'd also wait and see if it goes to the U.S. before writing to the company complaining about something that might not be aimed at you, or available to you, or that you might never see in the flesh.

[KGB_123_99]

[QUOTE=Matski;17590897]If this ends up having the same front overhang as the FWD 2 series Active Tourer, then it will still have a shorter front overhang than an E39.

By that logic, the Smart car has a shorter overhang than any BMW model out there. You have to consider the dash to axle ratio.

I'm sorry but the proportion of the cars below is not even in the same ballpark.

[Matski]

Originally Posted by KGB_123_99

By that logic, the Smart car has a shorter overhang than any BMW model out there. You have to consider the dash to axle ratio.

I'm sorry but the proportion of the cars below is not even in the same ballpark.

Front overhang on the F20/21 is 765mm, I think the F52 will be about the same, maybe 785mm (guesstimate from the pics). As you say, the difference comes from the ~110mm-ish further forward that the passenger compartment starts (assuming this shares a similar wheelbase to the F20/21 then that could be good news for interior *******. I guess they could simply have made the entire nose longer to match that of the 1-er hatches, but that would just be dead space... which isn't required for this model since it won't be getting a longitudinally mounted 6 cylinder. I don't think the angles of the photo's being posted, or some of the camo on the car is doing it any favours, but people are making it sound like it has an Enzo-like gawping front over-bite. I think it will be less of an overhang than recent VAG offerings.

I just sense that since many are so offended by this vehicle, any little thing they don't like about it will get blamed on the fact it's primarily FWD.

edit: WTH did I type that activated the swear filter? Pretty sure I just typed space!

[colin_e90]

I think we'll be seeing some xdrive 1 series sedans being converted to rwd, kinda like how you see some Subaru guys doing so

[Jason]

Renderings via Designrm.

[Raikkonen]

Although it looks tasteful, it's very difficult to make a car this small attractive as a 4-door sedan with a traditional trunk. The Audi A3 is another example of the awkwardness to which I'm inferring...

In my opinion, cars of this length look much better aesthetically as a hatchback.

My $.02

[rymiller73]

Can someone say VW Jetta.....

This will be huge in the young woman's market.....