[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Mr Tonka now that I am doing two a days, I can finally reach the lowest part of your regular calorie burn, daily.

You're weekly average will be right there with mine or even higher i think.

Interested to see how you're affected by the additional work.

I agree with not adding more protein supplement. Maybe just a normal amount through the extra 150 - 200 call intake you should have. Was that what you were planning on taking in as extra? For the cardio stuff, i would think an additional 100 cal of carb heavy food would be good pre or post mooring workout. Keep the brain in good function for the day.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

You're weekly average will be right there with mine or even higher i think.

Interested to see how you're affected by the additional work.

I agree with not adding more protein supplement. Maybe just a normal amount through the extra 150 - 200 call intake you should have. Was that what you were planning on taking in as extra? For the cardio stuff, i would think an additional 100 cal of carb heavy food would be good pre or post mooring workout. Keep the brain in good function for the day.

Guys! Lost 3.2lbs on keto within last 2 weeks!

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Guys! Lost 3.2lbs on keto within last 2 weeks!

That's tough to do with the physical state you're in. Good job!!

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

That's tough to do with the physical state you're in. Good job!!

Thanks man...I've been doing some upper body stuff with machines but it's not the same. Form is all jacked up so can't go very heavy without potentially busting something. All about reps. So hard to get a good pump.

You should see me weigh myself. Since I can only put weight on 1 leg, I have to balance on 1 foot. There's a process. Yup, it's accurate, my wife did the control (2 feet) and experiment test (1 foot).

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

You're weekly average will be right there with mine or even higher i think.

Interested to see how you're affected by the additional work.

I agree with not adding more protein supplement. Maybe just a normal amount through the extra 150 - 200 call intake you should have. Was that what you were planning on taking in as extra? For the cardio stuff, i would think an additional 100 cal of carb heavy food would be good pre or post mooring workout. Keep the brain in good function for the day.

Yeah, me too. I usually walk around the corporate district here (it's built like a giant circle, you see all the fat execs with their New Balances on and unbuttoned shirts on the lunch hour ), but I may refrain given the dual intensities at each end of the day. Post workout I have a BPI Best Protein bar and an Oikos Triple Zero, and that's all I eat until around 12PM (lunch); the morning sessions are approx. 8:30-9AM.

But it's crazy, I meant to tell you that I actually had a couple of chocolate chip cookies and half a glass of 2% milk within 15 minutes of taking my creatine/beta-alanine/caffeine blend and it REALLY changed my fatigue ceiling and stores for endurance during the P90 HIIT. It helps that I do the same routines often so I can channel differences, it was nuts! But I had found research that showed a specific (not overindulgence) macronutrient balance of carbs pre-workout can actually provide a balance for more effectiveness!

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Guys! Lost 3.2lbs on keto within last 2 weeks!

keep it up man! That's a healthy loss rate.

Funny, I came across this, perhaps you will find it interesting, you too Tonka.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/3-ru...rm-weight-loss

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Thanks man...I've been doing some upper body stuff with machines but it's not the same. Form is all jacked up so can't go very heavy without potentially busting something. All about reps. So hard to get a good pump.

You should see me weigh myself. Since I can only put weight on 1 leg, I have to balance on 1 foot. There's a process. Yup, it's accurate, my wife did the control (2 feet) and experiment test (1 foot).

Never underestimate the machines, man! They are actually superior to free weights in lots of regards, mainly safety, especially during a rehabilitation period. Lat pull downs, chest press, cable crossovers...very versatile.


And you should join the circus, with that balance..heh.

[Mywifes335]

Omg! What is it with old dudes and New Balance?

I'm Nike/Jordan's for life. Got some "fashion" kicks but at gym usually roll Nike wrestling or cross training sneakers or Jordan's.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Never underestimate the machines, man! They are actually superior to free weights in lots of regards, mainly safety, especially during a rehabilitation period. Lat pull downs, chest press, cable crossovers...very versatile.


And you should join the circus, with that balance..heh.

You know any good regimens with machines? I'm
Caveman and try to do similar workout as freeweights and it's not the same.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Omg! What is it with old dudes and New Balance?

I'm Nike/Jordan's for life. Got some "fashion" kicks but at gym usually roll Nike wrestling or cross training sneakers or Jordan's.

I dunno man! Haha, I'm a Nike Free/Roshe Run kind of guy, but I need flat shoes for the free weight routines, since you want more planting and less incline. But I'm not 1MOREMOD yet.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

I dunno man! Haha, I'm a Nike Free/Roshe Run kind of guy, but I need flat shoes for the free weight routines, since you want more planting and less incline. But I'm not 1MOREMOD yet.

You mean no wood soled lifting shoes?

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

You know any good regimens with machines? I'm
Caveman and try to do similar workout as freeweights and it's not the same.

Well the gym I've begun to use at work is a combination chest press, assisted pull up, lat pull down, cable cross, and leg curl all in one massive transformer looking machine LOL (pull up handle bars adorn the top of it like money bars). Weights max out at 112 for it which is reasonable, given that it's a machine in an office building, and more than enough weight to get some good reps in a superset.


Honestly, the only thing I would say is to switch your grips between parallel and wide/reverse switch for the lat/chest machines, and moderate your reps to 3 sets of 5. Might not be a good idea to train to failure at this stage since you are recovering, so just do what is manageable for you to hit the numbers.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

You mean no wood soled lifting shoes?

Nope! LOL. I really want some Chuck Taylors. I've always wanted some.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Nope! LOL. I really want some Chuck Taylors. I've always wanted some.

Get em! You can lift with them and wear them when you go out.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Yeah, me too. I usually walk around the corporate district here (it's built like a giant circle, you see all the fat execs with their New Balances on and unbuttoned shirts on the lunch hour ), but I may refrain given the dual intensities at each end of the day. Post workout I have a BPI Best Protein bar and an Oikos Triple Zero, and that's all I eat until around 12PM (lunch); the morning sessions are approx. 8:30-9AM.

But it's crazy, I meant to tell you that I actually had a couple of chocolate chip cookies and half a glass of 2% milk within 15 minutes of taking my creatine/beta-alanine/caffeine blend and it REALLY changed my fatigue ceiling and stores for endurance during the P90 HIIT. It helps that I do the same routines often so I can channel differences, it was nuts! But I had found research that showed a specific (not overindulgence) macronutrient balance of carbs pre-workout can actually provide a balance for more effectiveness!



keep it up man! That's a healthy loss rate.

Funny, I came across this, perhaps you will find it interesting, you too Tonka.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/3-ru...rm-weight-loss

So are you saying the cookies resulted in a positive effect or negative?

I'm just now starting to experiment with different types and quantities of food eaten pre, during and post workout. I used to just head out of work and go ride for 20-30 miles without eating anything after lunch. Then just have dinner. Then i started eating lunch about 30 min earlier and having a Quest bar about 1 hour before riding. 20g of protein and 14g of fiber is not optimal for a 90 -120 min cardio session. Realizing this, i started eating about 200 cal of carbs about 30 min before my ride and 150 - 175 during my ride with 20g of protein muscle milk after the ride, then dinner.

Today i'm having a blueberry scone pre ride, honey stinger strawberry waffle during and a new Suja drink with 10g of protein after, then dinner. I should burn about 1200 cal tonight and the list above works out to 620 cal consumed. I'm trying to only consume about 50% to 60% of my exercise calories and as the intensity increases, most of that should come from work out fuel rather than indulgence.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Nope! LOL. I really want some Chuck Taylors. I've always wanted some.

In the skateboard days, i'd go through a few pairs of Chucks every month. Good times!

The only pair i have now were purchased for an 80s theme party.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

So are you saying the cookies resulted in a positive effect or negative?

I'm just now starting to experiment with different types and quantities of food eaten pre, during and post workout. I used to just head out of work and go ride for 20-30 miles without eating anything after lunch. Then just have dinner. Then i started eating lunch about 30 min earlier and having a Quest bar about 1 hour before riding. 20g of protein and 14g of fiber is not optimal for a 90 -120 min cardio session. Realizing this, i started eating about 200 cal of carbs about 30 min before my ride and 150 - 175 during my ride with 20g of protein muscle milk after the ride, then dinner.

Today i'm having a blueberry scone pre ride, honey stinger strawberry waffle during and a new Suja drink with 10g of protein after, then dinner. I should burn about 1200 cal tonight and the list above works out to 620 cal consumed. I'm trying to only consume about 50% to 60% of my exercise calories and as the intensity increases, most of that should come from work out fuel rather than indulgence.

I would say positive. They didn't drain me like the quick digesting carbs normally do (again, when overindulged in), and I think it created some sort of weird endurance formula. Lol.

How did you find the bolded portion above worked for you? Those are some pretty cool combinations, I'm sure they've contributed positively for you. Any adverse affects? Or I guess you're still experimenting so no conclusions to be made, as of yet?

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Get em! You can lift with them and wear them when you go out.

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

In the skateboard days, i'd go through a few pairs of Chucks every month. Good times!

The only pair i have now were purchased for an 80s theme party.

Dude! I am so gonna buy some. I'm gonna look right now. Lol. They make lots of cool colors now, too.

[Axius]

What's up ya bunch of twats?

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Axius

What's up ya bunch of twats?

Sup with that new job.

[bimmette]

Originally Posted by Axius

What's up ya bunch of twats?

Hi stranger

[Axius]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Sup with that new job.

Haven't heard anything back since the 6th, so I think it's safe to say there was someone else more fitting unfortunately.

Originally Posted by bimmette

Hi stranger

What's up babe? Long time no chatty.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

In the skateboard days, i'd go through a few pairs of Chucks every month. Good times!

The only pair i have now were purchased for an 80s theme party.

Omg. You skated too?

Lemme play the name game.

my favorite deck was a Lance Mountain but also had Lester. I started with a cheapo Variflex.

Vision Street Wear tees.

Vans on my feet.

What's up?

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Axius

Haven't heard anything back since the 6th, so I think it's safe to say there was someone else more fitting unfortunately.



What's up babe? Long time no chatty.

You've followed up?