[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Man, that pisses me off!!! These guys shouldn't have to endure pain for their career and our entertainment. FIA needs to act now.

Toto should consider adjusting the ride height of their cars. Toto the boss and Hamilton are not shy about presenting views about safety being a personal decision like jewelry.

Toto, Russell and Hamilton all decide on set up. They want pace and accept the bouncing. That’s life.

Lando said it best, Merc can adjust the ride height like Mclaren does for its drivers. Mclaren cares about their drivers a bit more than Merc at the moment.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Wolff the latest : HAM's participation at the Canadian GP is in danger by lower back pain ...

HAM : Today I was praying in the car !

Always good for a social media headline. Comical.

Russell said the car wasn’t that bad to drive today.


Best quote of the day from Max in the post race press conference.

Host: “this is your 25th win, as I said at the start, equalling the greats, Jim Clark and Nicky Lauda.

Max: “Yeah, we also do more races a year, right? So if you have a good car… It's not really comparable, but it's nice for the books.”

Well done lad, stay grounded.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Toto should consider adjusting the ride height of their cars. Toto the boss and Hamilton are not shy about presenting views about safety being a personal decision like jewelry.

Toto, Russell and Hamilton all decide on set up. They want pace and accept the bouncing. That’s life.

Lando said it best, Merc can adjust the ride height like Mclaren does for its drivers. Mclaren cares about their drivers a bit more than Merc at the moment.

indeed.
In this recent interview with Horner he also says that the amount of porpoising is also a matter of choice. Raise the ride heigt and it becomes way less.
He also says that sending out drivers with a setup that is unsafe is never a good thing....

https://racingnews365.com/horner-bel...out-porpoising
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/84...alth-concerns/

Of course what MERC is bothering the most, is not the porpoising, but that they've lost their leading position with the introduction of the ground effect cars, and that that gap is substantial (the difference between fastest laps from RB and RUS is over 1sec, where the RB cars were on orders to take it easy and at one point not to even use DRS); not something they're gonne close in the near future.
I'm pretty sure that had RB not given the order to take it easy, they certainly could've lapped HAM.

So if anything, they'd like to see the ground effect cars gone....
It all fits in MERC's old political games.

[MontyB1]

Merc do seem to be going for a very aggressive setup especially on HAM car but the whole field are suffering with it to one degree or another. The Ferrari certainly doesn't look great on the straights either, they are all doing it.

I think something needs to be done but I can't see all teams agreeing to it as some have sorted it and others are still struggling with it. Would much rather talk about the racing than the bouncing so if its still there at the end of this year I can see the FIA doing something about it personally. Maybe allow the return of the hydraulic suspension but certainly not full active suspension.

[e90335e36m3]

Oh I remember last year how our friend, a certain lobbyist, was citing all sorts of statistics to support his argument that Hamilton was winning because Hamilton's raw talent and not the car. I remember how I said watch this kid Russell will wipe the floor with 777 and look what's happening. Did Hamilton win because of raw talent? Nah. Is talent required to win? Sure. But is it mostly being at the right place at the right time? Yep. The proof is in the pudding.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

Oh I remember last year how our friend, a certain lobbyist, was citing all sorts of statistics to support his argument that Hamilton was winning because Hamilton's raw talent and not the car. I remember how I said watch this kid Russell will wipe the floor with 777 and look what's happening. Did Hamilton win because of raw talent? Nah. Is talent required to win? Sure. But is it mostly being at the right place at the right time? Yep. The proof is in the pudding.

I never took anyone seriously that called Hamilton the goat and I respect the shit out of his driving. Terrible take from people who only look at analytics and nothing else.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by F87source

They gotta give it to a Merc junior driver otherwise the Merc drivers program is a joke.

Ocon is still a possibility. I don't think he's worthy yet but who knows.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

IMHO . The Russell boy is doing a great job in that bouncing Mercedes 5H1T box .

RUS beats Sir7HAM with one hand on his steering wheel !

So who is now the #1 driver at Mercedes ?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

Ocon is still a possibility. I don't think he's worthy yet but who knows.

Ocon is a piece of 5H1T !

[NYG]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Ocon is a piece of 5H1T !

Alonso > Ocon.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

As someone with 2 herniated discs and spinal stenosis - he's 100% a massive actor just like he is with everything he does. It's why 9 year olds love him.

Wolff was seeking excuses for HAM who was beaten again by the Russell boy .

Wolff said : HAM's floor was bouncing with 6 G against the asphalt !

I was thinking : RUS's floor wasn't bouncing against the asphalt ?

[NYG]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Wolff was seeking excuses for HAM who was beaten again by the Russell boy .

Wolff said : HAM's floor was bouncing with 6 G against the asphalt !

I was thinking : RUS's floor wasn't bouncing against the asphalt ?

The thing is, I'm sure it was unpleasant and I'm sure it definitely didn't make his back feel good but the way he was getting out of his car was so over exaggerated. He always needs attention.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

Alonso > Ocon.

Saw enough from Ocon when he was teammate with Checo in the pink Mercedes ..

And OC this ..

[NYG]

Max and Checo are 1-2 in WDC standings - first time for Red Bull since 2011 with Vettel and Webber.

Let's go bulls. My favorite driver pairing.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

The thing is, I'm sure it was unpleasant and I'm sure it definitely didn't make his back feel good but the way he was getting out of his car was so over exaggerated. He always needs attention.

Her hands are like magic !!!

[NYG]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Her hands are like magic !!!

I think this is the only female contact he receives.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

I think this is the only female contact he receives.

+ Bieber

[MontyB1]

I know many hate Hamilton on this forum but he most certainly isn't the only one to complain about the proposing.

Seems GASLY is the latest to come out and say enough is enough. The challenge is yes the teams can increase ride hight but the performance suffers and the teams (all of them) are saying suck it up and take it for the most part.

So I think the FIA will be forced to do something to help everyone from the front to the back despite the teams rejecting solutions pre-season it appears.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/g...t-30/10321665/

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

I know many hate Hamilton on this forum but he most certainly isn't the only one to complain about the proposing.

Seems GASLY is the latest to come out and say enough is enough. The challenge is yes the teams can increase ride hight but the performance suffers and the teams (all of them) are saying suck it up and take it for the most part.

So I think the FIA will be forced to do something to help everyone from the front to the back despite the teams rejecting solutions pre-season it appears.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/g...t-30/10321665/

Wolff came up with this BS . Because he wants 'active suspension under his Merc's to safe HAM's A$$ !

[NYG]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

I know many hate Hamilton on this forum but he most certainly isn't the only one to complain about the proposing.

Seems GASLY is the latest to come out and say enough is enough. The challenge is yes the teams can increase ride hight but the performance suffers and the teams (all of them) are saying suck it up and take it for the most part.

So I think the FIA will be forced to do something to help everyone from the front to the back despite the teams rejecting solutions pre-season it appears.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/g...t-30/10321665/

It's not that he's complaining about porpoising it's that he's now victimized himself in an exaggerated fashion like he always does. He looked like he just finished storming normandy beach.

I don't think the FIA needs to do anything. Clearly some teams have figured it out within the confines of the rules more than others. This is exactly what F1 constructors is all about. Some teams like MB, who should have trashed their dumbass car concept after race 1, chose to keep applying bandages onto a bad car. Now they're crying about it.

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by NYG

I never took anyone seriously that called Hamilton the goat and I respect the shit out of his driving. Terrible take from people who only look at analytics and nothing else.

In my mind, the same goes for Schumacher, Verstappen, Prost, Senna. Given the number of changes the cars are constantly undergoing, and by the drivers' own admissions, when they lose, it's a bad car, when they win it's a good car.

Otherwise, are you telling me, Perez, Sainz, Russell and LeClerk all surpassed Hamilton in skill in just 1 year? It is the cars, it has always been and always will be the cars. There's no way to objectively determine who the best driver is, because they don't all start with the same car.

You can take the shortsighted way and say look 7ir 7amilton 777777, but will look silly during times like this. Give me a break.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

In my mind, the same goes for Schumacher, Verstappen, Prost, Senna. Given the number of changes the cars are constantly undergoing, and by the drivers' own admissions, when they lose, it's a bad car, when they win it's a good car.

Otherwise, are you telling me, Perez, Sainz, Russell and LeClerk all surpassed Hamilton in skill in just 1 year? It is the cars, it has always been and always will be the cars. There's no way to objectively determine who the best driver is, because they don't all start with the same car.

You can take the shortsighted way and say look 7ir 7amilton 777777, but will look silly during times like this. Give me a break.

I wouldn't put Senna in that conversation though. The man was a monster that F1 will never see again IMO.