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      04-02-2021, 01:16 PM   #221
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$825+Ford install gets you a warranted Ford tune to 315 hp 370 torque. More than enough for the 2-Door lighter versions.

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      04-19-2021, 11:29 AM   #222
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Finally got to look at two in person, both 4-Doors, one auto and one Manual! Would definitely take one over the Wrangler.
Sasquatch look worth it in person? It seems the majority of the Bronco forum members are going with the upgraded wheels on the Badlands vs the Squatch.
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I'm not too familiar with package details or features so I'm not the best judge but both cars looked awesome, the Manual was a badlands model I believe.
In the pics, the dark blue one has Sasquatch and the grey Badlands has the upgraded Badlands wheels.
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      04-19-2021, 12:08 PM   #224
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I love the exterior but the interior is not up to par with my expectations. Yes I know Ford has a target demographic. Maybe 30 years ago I would already be in one.
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Boy those interior plastics look hard and cheap. I suppose that's par for the course given the intent of the vehicle.
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Did the front fender fall off the blue bronco? or are they self installed?
Looks good though.....

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Did the front fender fall off the blue bronco? or are they self installed?
Looks good though.....

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One of the features is that they are easily removable and swapped out. Someone was probably demonstrating this capability.
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One of the features is that they are easily removable and swapped out. Someone was probably demonstrating this capability.

Awesome, thanks for the info!. Think this car will be a big seller....looks great
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Boy those interior plastics look hard and cheap. I suppose that's par for the course given the intent of the vehicle.
This is competing with the Wrangler which basically has an interior out of one of these:

Plus a headline feature of the Bronco's interior is its ability to be washed with a hose, so feel and refinement was not a priority.
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Finally got to look at two in person, both 4-Doors, one auto and one Manual! Would definitely take one over the Wrangler.
Thanks for the pics, are you planning on reviewing one like with the Mach E?
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Thanks for the pics, are you planning on reviewing one like with the Mach E?
Sadly these were only available to look and sit in, no driving. They plan on reaching customers by the Summer/Q4 2021. Hopefully I should be able to get behind the wheel of one then!
Looking forward to your review
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Thanks for the pics, are you planning on reviewing one like with the Mach E?
I have one on order and should have it by the late fall I expect. I'll post my review, which I'm sure will not be as eloquent as stein_325i, but I'll take a shot.
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Did the front fender fall off the blue bronco? or are they self installed?
Looks good though.....

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To be precise, that is the fender flare, which is designed to be removable without the use of tools. It's designed that way to allow quick removal for trail rides to allow for more body clearance on tight trails.

But also, all all four metal fenders are relatively easily removed with simple hand tools for the purposes of modification to the body for specific uses. Ford intends to have vast aftermarket support of the Bronco for individual modifications that suit the owner's tastes.
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I saw one of these on the road the other day with Michigan plates. Looked to be a base model. I was unimpressed in person. Looked cheaply made and smaller than I was expecting, but it was a tester, so...
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Can't wait, these cars are awesome, owners will love them, I hope some of them will actually take it off road too!
I'll take a pic of mine in the river in front of my house
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I saw one of these on the road the other day with Michigan plates. Looked to be a base model. I was unimpressed in person. Looked cheaply made and smaller than I was expecting, but it was a tester, so...
Those of us who have reviewed the near-production versions being shown by Ford in its dealer event campaign believe the Bronco to be the quality vehicle they are expecting.
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Can't wait, these cars are awesome, owners will love them, I hope some of them will actually take it off road too!
I'm trying to buy a vehicle now that has under 200,000 miles on it by the time I retire mid-decade.

The Bronco will have garage queen duty from whenever I get it this year until I hang up the cleats. It really is the only vehicle on the market that I have any interest in. The E-Stang I really like too, except for the stupid screen.

I have to be honest, I'm tired of BMW's pretentious crap from all the soccer parents that lease them to impress the neighbors. Yeah, it's been that way with BMW for 20 years now, but BMW used to offer an unpretentious 3-Series with a manual transmission and sport package, so I'd put up with the pretentiousness and the MSRPs. But they brought the 3-Series into the pretentious fold with the G20, and they effed up with the F30 and made that one a Buick. And the M 3-Series got uber-pretentious years ago too when the E46 version came out (E37/E85/86 excluded of course ) . I'm old skool; wrench on it on the weekends and drive it during the week.
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This is competing with the Wrangler which basically has an interior out of one of these:

Plus a headline feature of the Bronco's interior is its ability to be washed with a hose, so feel and refinement was not a priority.
Well, really it's just the floors if you get the Black Diamond or Badlands. And low pressure water at that.
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Boy those interior plastics look hard and cheap. I suppose that's par for the course given the intent of the vehicle.
It's not aimed at the dilettante segment.
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It's not aimed at the dilettante segment.
Exactly. If you want a luxurious drive to the fox hunt in the Scottish Highlands go buy a new Defender. If you want to go 4-wheeling with your buddies and drop your Miller High Life empty in the rear passenger footwell and clean up the skanky beer a week later, Ford has your off-road vehicle
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It's not aimed at the dilettante segment.
The reality is that's the segment that will purchase most of them. Most Jeeps never see off road nor will these.
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The reality is that's the segment that will purchase most of them. Most Jeeps never see off road nor will these.
And the reality is most people who buy BMW M-cars don't track them, nor can drive them anywhere near the car's limits. From the Bronco forums I'm on, most of the enthusiasts are going to off-road their Broncos. Most people don't have the resources to ball-up their $50K vehicle, whether it's tracking at Laguna Seca, or crawling Moab.

So I'm not sure why it matters as a discussion point.
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