[MKSixer]

[racerbruce]

This.is.awesome.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

This.is.awesome.

Thanks Bruce!!

I saw it yesterday on FB but couldn't use the shot because the user's name was imbedded. I though it was hilarious.

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Thanks Bruce!!

I saw it yesterday on FB but couldn't use the shot because the user's name was imbedded. I though it was hilarious.

MK,
You briefly referenced your driving instructor....is this for high performance driving training or do you compete in sanctioned events?? Post here or feel free to PM me.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

HAM looks very hungry , but there's no food on the table !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Maybe MAX is late

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Maybe MAX is late

MAX is not invited , because HAM is chicken for the challenge .
Anyway , the challenge remains open...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX is not invited , because HAM is chicken for the challenge .
Anyway , the challenge remains open...

He'll be a sad man sitting there on his own for not taking the challenge.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX is not invited

I do believe you need to win at least 1 WDC to be invited to sit at that table. So this might take a while

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX is not invited , because HAM is chicken for the challenge .
Anyway , the challenge remains open...

Lol such BS...Mercedes offered to let Verstappen drive their car...its Verstappen who is too frightened to turn up for a drive, knowing full well he would be slower.
Pointing out *again* that Verstappen has no say in who gets to drive a Red Bull just as Hamilton can't say who gets to drive a Mercedes.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Lol such BS...Mercedes offered to let Verstappen drive their car...its Verstappen who is too frightened to turn up for a drive, knowing full well he would be slower.
Pointing out *again* that Verstappen has no say in who gets to drive a Red Bull just as Hamilton can't say who gets to drive a Mercedes.

Negative mate !
Horner and Marko agreed with the challenge . But HAM and Toto didn't ...
Toto said : MAX just call (ring) us , and you can drive a Merc . But that wasn't the challenge ..
Merc just twisted the words , because they didn't spoke to swap the cars like MAX requested in the challenge !

They would never put HAM's market value and reputation at risk mate .
As I said in one word ....Lulu is "Chicken" !

[yco]

been few days since its posted but i ve just watched it.. a great talk..

[racerbruce]

Thank you YCO -
A great interview with HAM and great insight into his life, motivation, direction, determination, deep desire to learn and heart for those less fortunate than him.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Merc just twisted the words , because they didn't spoke to swap the cars like MAX requested in the challenge !

A fair challenge is...drive the same car...and see who is fastest.
Merc have offered Verstappen a chance to drive a Mercedes.
Red Bull should match the offer and bring their car to a shootout.
Both drivers drive both cars and see who comes out ahead.
Anyone with half a brain knows its never going to happen but it would be fun to see.

Max just driving a Merc and Hamilton just driving a RB makes zero sense as there is no benchmark time to compare.


For reference the actual transcript of the press conference:

"Q: ... the Red Bull is faster in race pace than in qualifying pace and much closer to the Mercedes cars. Do you think, after the changes in the regulations that we’ve had a few weeks ago, that it’s still the same and you’re closer in race pace than in qualifying pace?

MV: I guess we’ll only find out if we swap cars once, both drivers, and then we can compare but I don’t know. I don’t think a lot has changed to be honest before the rule change and now, so no, that’s just a bit of a guess but I think you can clearly see that it hasn’t brought us a lot closer or further away. Before the rule change…

LH: What do we need to swap for?

MV: We swap cars. You go into mine, I go into yours then we know the comparison.

LH: Of what?

MV: Of the difference between the cars if they actually have become faster in the race compared to qualifying. I don’t know. Maybe we can do like a private test day or something."


So not even a challenge but a way to clear up if the cars become faster in race pace than qualifying pace after the rule change.

Anyway keep at it...I'm sure this particular dead horse can still take plenty more flogging.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

I do believe you need to win at least 1 WDC to be invited to sit at that table. So this might take a while

You sir, win The Internet today. Congratulations!!
SAVAGE!!


Nothing else needs to be added.

[MKSixer]

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[MKSixer]

This should settle the question once and for all...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

A fair challenge is...drive the same car...and see who is fastest.
Merc have offered Verstappen a chance to drive a Mercedes.
Red Bull should match the offer and bring their car to a shootout.
Both drivers drive both cars and see who comes out ahead.
Anyone with half a brain knows its never going to happen but it would be fun to see.

Max just driving a Merc and Hamilton just driving a RB makes zero sense as there is no benchmark time to compare.


For reference the actual transcript of the press conference:

"Q: ... the Red Bull is faster in race pace than in qualifying pace and much closer to the Mercedes cars. Do you think, after the changes in the regulations that we’ve had a few weeks ago, that it’s still the same and you’re closer in race pace than in qualifying pace?

MV: I guess we’ll only find out if we swap cars once, both drivers, and then we can compare but I don’t know. I don’t think a lot has changed to be honest before the rule change and now, so no, that’s just a bit of a guess but I think you can clearly see that it hasn’t brought us a lot closer or further away. Before the rule change…

LH: What do we need to swap for?

MV: We swap cars. You go into mine, I go into yours then we know the comparison.

LH: Of what?

MV: Of the difference between the cars if they actually have become faster in the race compared to qualifying. I don’t know. Maybe we can do like a private test day or something."


So not even a challenge but a way to clear up if the cars become faster in race pace than qualifying pace after the rule change.

Anyway keep at it...I'm sure this particular dead horse can still take plenty more flogging.

Negative mate .They should "NOT" drive the same car ! No way mate !
This would hide how much the Merc is faster than de RB16 ...

You shouldn't throw sand in our eyes . We are not idiots !

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Negative mate .They should "NOT" drive the same car ! No way mate !
This would hide how much the Merc is faster than de RB16 ...

Que?
How can you decide who is the fastest if not by both drivers setting a time in the same car.
Mercedes and Hamilton have offered a car for Verstappen to drive to see who can set the fastest time..
They are just waiting for Verstappen and RB to do the same.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Que?
How can you decide who is the fastest if not by both drivers setting a time in the same car.
Mercedes and Hamilton have offered a car for Verstappen to drive to see who can set the fastest time..
They are just waiting for Verstappen and RB to do the same.

MAX in the MERC , in car number 44 (W11 latest 2020 setup version)
HAM in the RB16 , in car number 33 (RB16 latest 2020 setup version)

And let them run qualifying tests at 4 different tracks and on one track in the wet .
Store all data in database regarding the lap times .

It's not the car ? It's really the driver! Right Mate ?

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX in the MERC , in car number 44 (W11 latest 2020 setup version)
HAM in the RB16 , in car number 33 (RB16 latest 2020 setup version)
And let them run qualifying tests at 4 different tracks and on one track in the wet .
Store all data in database regarding the lap times .
It's not the car ? It's really the driver! Right Mate ?

OMG its like you have no understanding of F1
What are you expecting?
That the times that Verstappen set in the Merc would tell you something of value?
That the times Hamilton set in the RB would tell you something of value?

The lap time that an F1 car can set at any track is absolutely dependant on a host of variables.

The only way for a fairly decent comparison is...Head to head in the same car, at the same track, with the same tyres, with the same set up, at the same ambient temp, at the same track surface temp, etc etc etc...alternating between drivers to eliminate all variables.
Then the fastest laps will show who is fastest over a single lap.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

OMG its like you have no understanding of F1
What are you expecting?
That the times that Verstappen set in the Merc would tell you something of value?
That the times Hamilton set in the RB would tell you something of value?

The lap time that an F1 car can set at any track is absolutely dependant on a host of variables.

The only way for a fairly decent comparison is...Head to head in the same car, at the same track, with the same tyres, with the same set up, at the same ambient temp, at the same track surface temp, etc etc etc...alternating between drivers to eliminate all variables.
Then the fastest laps will show who is fastest over a single lap.

Mate that's what I'm thinking of you !
Are you serious ?

It's pretty simple as I said the latest setting that is used in the last race should be remained !!!
No one may touch the cars anymore after the last driven race , and the cars should be in 24/7 surveillance by outsiders only
Because the teams can mess it up for the other driver . Yes they can screw the other driver ! Easily !
I wouldn't trust the other team ! Yeah mate, we/I don't believe in Santa Claus ...

1- If HAM is faster in the RB16 , he's the best driver and is the GOAT for sure !

2- If MAX is faster in the W11 , by this he beats the GOAT and MAX is NOW the best driver !

AMEN !