streaming videos.....

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 05:43 PM

I'm having problems streaming videos. I have a decently fast internet connection as well as the newest routerN from linksys. What happens is I'll watch 10-15 seconds and then it will have to 'buffer' again, then another 10-15 secs. then buffer again. What can I do to stop this?? It's really starting to drive me nuts. Oh I have XP.

-Garrett

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:04 PM

Check your ping - if it's high it will affect video streaming and on-line gaming

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stnewcar

Check your ping - if it's high it will affect video streaming and on-line gaming

uh how?

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:09 PM

http://www.pingplotter.com/download.html

download program and try it out - if you are on M$ that is? EDiT just saw your on xp

Or if happy with DOS - run CMD then type TRACERT www.e90post.com then enter

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 06:18 PM

So what am I looking for on this pingplotter?

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:20 PM

any pings over 50 aren't very good - if the servers are on the other side of the world then the ping will be a litle higher.

Can you let the program run a while then post a screengrab?

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 06:22 PM

I'm on tracecount 15 and and the roundtrips are sitting in the 130's, e90post came back in the 80's

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:26 PM

its dependant on hops (how many servers (pc's) you go through to connect) and how many people are basically sharing your line (contention)

The time of day plays a large part in all of this - its 23:25 here and my ping is great but from 16:00 to 22:30 it was over 200!!! - More people on the lines.

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 06:28 PM

I'm hopping through 15 points to e90, and 15 to www.chooseandwatch.com which was the one in the 130's

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:35 PM

I've got 16 hops to e90post and in UK.

Try that program out at different time of the day - I bet you will see a correlation in high pings and poor streaming. Not much you can do unless you switch to a different ISP that isn't so busy. See what pings you get outside peak period first.

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 06:40 PM

Sucks. So theres no way to lower it? It's just the nature of the beast. The interweb is a pain in the arse.

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:43 PM

It certainly is. I'm switching ISP tomorrow for exactly the same reason as you posted - crap pings during peak period. I just hope the new ISP is better!

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 06:48 PM

I don't have many choices here. It's either 1 cable company(cox communications), or 1 DSL company(SBC). DSL is the suck so I went with Cox, I really wish my city got Time Warner or Adelphia but they don't.

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:51 PM

Fibre to the home is what I want!!! No problem with how many people on the line then.

darkcloud · 05-09-2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stnewcar

Fibre to the home is what I want!!! No problem with how many people on the line then.

That's not coming anytime soon, at least not in the US. We are so slow on technical changes to the civil population. Fibre optic to older homes is prolly 10 years out. Maybe to new homes in 5, MAYBE

- Paul - · 05-09-2007, 06:55 PM

I think the UK will be behind the US aswell

Anyway - -off to bed - goodnight world.

UncleWede · 05-09-2007, 07:28 PM

FIOS is being installed to Verizon customers, but not sure which older homes. You'd know, they'd be pulling wires into your house.

voltron1011 · 05-11-2007, 06:16 PM

You're problem is due to your ISP mainly. The problem with Cable is that you are sharing a connection back to CO (central office) with anyone else in your neighborhood who also has a cable-modem. Everyone shares the same node that in turn gets fed to the cable company. Depending on how many other folks in your neighborhood are on that node at any particular time will affect your speeds. Also, all the these sharing nodes are ultimately limited to what the cable company has for it's data circuit to the net. The could have a T-1 (1.5mb/s), DS-3 (45mb/s), OC-3 (155mb/s), OC-48 (2488mb/s). Latency (measured by ping) on cable is usually higher than on DSL.
DSL, although slower, gives you a dedicated line to the Central Office that is yours and yours only. No one else will be riding the same circuit with you. The only downside it that it is very distance limited to 18000 ft. Latency is significantly lower than cable. As an example, my neighbor and I both play Counter-Strike source and he has cable while I have DSL.... My latency to the server in LA is 9ms, while his latency through Cox Cable is around 43ms...

The hopcount that was mentioned earlier is a complete different mechanism in networking and although it does make a difference in your response time, you really can't change much by going to another provider. These routes are dictacted by a Internet routing protocol known as BGP (Border Gateway Protocol). This protocol is running on thousands and thousands of routers (not pc's) out there in the internet that constantly tell each other about what networks they know about. They actually don't tell each other constantly as much as they constantly ask each other, "Has anything changed since the last time I asked you?"

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darkcloud Colonel 359 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	streaming videos..... I'm having problems streaming videos. I have a decently fast internet connection as well as the newest routerN from linksys. What happens is I'll watch 10-15 seconds and then it will have to 'buffer' again, then another 10-15 secs. then buffer again. What can I do to stop this?? It's really starting to drive me nuts. Oh I have XP. -Garrett __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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- Paul - Major General 759 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	http://www.pingplotter.com/download.html download program and try it out - if you are on M$ that is? EDiT just saw your on xp Or if happy with DOS - run CMD then type TRACERT www.e90post.com then enter __________________ My Photos
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darkcloud Colonel 359 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	So what am I looking for on this pingplotter? __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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- Paul - Major General 759 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	any pings over 50 aren't very good - if the servers are on the other side of the world then the ping will be a litle higher. Can you let the program run a while then post a screengrab? __________________ My Photos
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darkcloud Colonel 359 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	I'm on tracecount 15 and and the roundtrips are sitting in the 130's, e90post came back in the 80's __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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- Paul - Major General 759 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	its dependant on hops (how many servers (pc's) you go through to connect) and how many people are basically sharing your line (contention) The time of day plays a large part in all of this - its 23:25 here and my ping is great but from 16:00 to 22:30 it was over 200!!! - More people on the lines. __________________ My Photos
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darkcloud Colonel 359 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	I'm hopping through 15 points to e90, and 15 to www.chooseandwatch.com which was the one in the 130's __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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- Paul - Major General 759 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	I've got 16 hops to e90post and in UK. Try that program out at different time of the day - I bet you will see a correlation in high pings and poor streaming. Not much you can do unless you switch to a different ISP that isn't so busy. See what pings you get outside peak period first. __________________ My Photos
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darkcloud Colonel 359 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	Sucks. So theres no way to lower it? It's just the nature of the beast. The interweb is a pain in the arse. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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- Paul - Major General 759 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	It certainly is. I'm switching ISP tomorrow for exactly the same reason as you posted - crap pings during peak period. I just hope the new ISP is better! __________________ My Photos
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darkcloud Colonel 359 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	I don't have many choices here. It's either 1 cable company(cox communications), or 1 DSL company(SBC). DSL is the suck so I went with Cox, I really wish my city got Time Warner or Adelphia but they don't. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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- Paul - Major General 759 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	Fibre to the home is what I want!!! No problem with how many people on the line then. __________________ My Photos
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- Paul - Major General 759 Rep 7,308 Posts Drives: see above. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (5) Garage List 2005 320D SE [10.00] 2005 645 [9.00]	I think the UK will be behind the US aswell Anyway - -off to bed - goodnight world. __________________ My Photos
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voltron1011 Colonel 124 Rep 2,909 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wiesbaden iTrader: (2)	You're problem is due to your ISP mainly. The problem with Cable is that you are sharing a connection back to CO (central office) with anyone else in your neighborhood who also has a cable-modem. Everyone shares the same node that in turn gets fed to the cable company. Depending on how many other folks in your neighborhood are on that node at any particular time will affect your speeds. Also, all the these sharing nodes are ultimately limited to what the cable company has for it's data circuit to the net. The could have a T-1 (1.5mb/s), DS-3 (45mb/s), OC-3 (155mb/s), OC-48 (2488mb/s). Latency (measured by ping) on cable is usually higher than on DSL. DSL, although slower, gives you a dedicated line to the Central Office that is yours and yours only. No one else will be riding the same circuit with you. The only downside it that it is very distance limited to 18000 ft. Latency is significantly lower than cable. As an example, my neighbor and I both play Counter-Strike source and he has cable while I have DSL.... My latency to the server in LA is 9ms, while his latency through Cox Cable is around 43ms... The hopcount that was mentioned earlier is a complete different mechanism in networking and although it does make a difference in your response time, you really can't change much by going to another provider. These routes are dictacted by a Internet routing protocol known as BGP (Border Gateway Protocol). This protocol is running on thousands and thousands of routers (not pc's) out there in the internet that constantly tell each other about what networks they know about. They actually don't tell each other constantly as much as they constantly ask each other, "Has anything changed since the last time I asked you?"
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