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      10-21-2010, 09:57 AM   #23
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Three weeks is a BIG red flag, unless surrounded by long tenure with other companies.

This.... I don't care what the rationale is, I guarantee you'll be immediately 'disqualified' from 1/2 of all jobs you apply to simply based on that.

You have to understand the HR/hiring person's mindset. 'Ok so you didn't like the guy that they hired....what if you think the same thing about someone working here? Obviously you aren't committed to the company'.

Leave it out
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      10-21-2010, 09:58 AM   #24
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This

How can you be on your way to a masters and have some guy with an AS in a position over you? It happens in my field from time to time, but that's because the tallent needs to be so highly trained and the managers are usually former military with 20+ years experience which makes up for the lack of a degree in most cases.
While very important, a degree with no/little experience or work history can easily be trumped by solid experience (results), but no degree.

I've worked with many talented individuals that made it to "C-suite" positions with no degree, as well as many with degrees that are performing direct labor. Nothinig wrong with direct labor at all, just an example to back up my point.
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      10-21-2010, 10:03 AM   #25
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You always have to look out for #1. They will show you no loyalty if they need to make a buck.
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      10-21-2010, 11:34 AM   #26
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You always have to look out for #1. They will show you no loyalty if they need to make a buck.
this too...you'll learn this sooner or later.

There's never been anything more insulting to me than giving the company the kindness of a 2 weeks notice, and getting a response of 'no....today will be your last day then', and you don't have an income/job for 2 weeks.

Plus the aspect they wouldn't mind firing you on the spot if they needed to.
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There's never been anything more insulting to me than giving the company the kindness of a 2 weeks notice, and getting a response of 'no....today will be your last day then', and you don't have an income/job for 2 weeks.
Keep in mind that, in this case, the employer is obligated to pay you the two weeks. If they do not, it would be considered termination since the resignation isn't effective until the date stated in your notice letter. Employers certainly have the right to release you the day you notify them for security reasons, etc., but they need to pay you for the balance of your tenure.

Always provide a resignation letter with the specific date you are ending your employment.
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      10-21-2010, 11:56 AM   #28
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Keep in mind that, in this case, the employer is obligated to pay you the two weeks. If they do not, it would be considered termination since the resignation isn't effective until the date stated in your notice letter. Employers certainly have the right to release you the day you notify them for security reasons, etc., but they need to pay you for the balance of your tenure.

Always provide a resignation letter with the specific date you are ending your employment.
very good point, I've heard that before...but I've never had any luck fighting that one? (only happened twice, and both times I've never really cared to spend TOO much time to fight it). Any suggestions? (as it may come in handy with the OP too if he tries to give 2 weeks)
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very good point, I've heard that before...but I've never had any luck fighting that one? (only happened twice, and both times I've never really cared to spend TOO much time to fight it). Any suggestions? (as it may come in handy with the OP too if he tries to give 2 weeks)
The decision to fight it, like any other legal decision, requires weighing the pros/cons of hiring an attorney, etc. Depending on what kind of coin you pull in, it may not be worth the cost and aggravation.

Any reputable company will honor the two weeks of pay, whether they make you work for it or not. Unfortunately not all companies are reputable.
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The decision to fight it, like any other legal decision, requires weighing the pros/cons of hiring an attorney, etc. Depending on what kind of coin you pull in, it may not be worth the cost and aggravation.

Any reputable company will honor the two weeks of pay, whether they make you work for it or not. Unfortunately not all companies are reputable.
even the fortune 500 ones.....
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The decision to fight it, like any other legal decision, requires weighing the pros/cons of hiring an attorney, etc. Depending on what kind of coin you pull in, it may not be worth the cost and aggravation.

Any reputable company will honor the two weeks of pay, whether they make you work for it or not. Unfortunately not all companies are reputable.
also I figured as much on the legal thing, wasn't sure if there was an easier channel.
(things like the housing authorities and whatnot that allow you to pursue legal options without paying legal fees or having an attorney of your own)
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      10-25-2010, 03:58 PM   #32
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The first step is to realize that you don't know crap about the company, etc. and most future employers won't be particularly fond of someone with very limited experience heavily criticizing the way things are done (even if things truly are crap). That's usually a sign of somebody who will never be satisfied or will always blame other people no matter where they go.

It's not a reason to stay, but don't badmouth the company when asked why you want to leave in the interviews for your next role. Just tell them that the logistics of the commute were harder than expected, etc.

Also, note that many resume writing services will tell you not even to put a place on your resume if you were in the role for less than 6 months to a year.
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1. Do not bad mouth a former employer, boss, or coworker.
2. Don't put it on your resume.
3. If you decide to put it on your resume, simply give them an excuse such they wanted to change your shift to something that did not work with you or they wanted you to transfer to a different office. They will not verify this.
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