[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Hey, whatever works. I like mine black, but was made fun of last month while in Italy for ordering espresso without sugar, I may as well have asked for a coke with extra ice.

Because they expect it to be sweetened?

While in Venice years ago I was waiting for my espresso in this little shop. This old mailman guy pushing a little wheeled basket thing came in. He didn't say a word and the gal behind the counter pours him a tall glass of white wine. He slams it down in one lift, thanks her and is out the door.

We have mornings ALL wrong.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Feyd

Don't the original owners of Starbucks now own Peets?

I was watching some documentary on Starbucks and I thought I heard that. I also heard that the original owner of Peets used to roast all of the Beans at the first Starbucks in Seattle.

Other way around, the Starbucks guys learned from Peets. There were rumors a few years ago that when old man Peet died, Starbucks had bought them, but they proved to be false. Since Peets started in Berkeley decades before Starbucks, I'd say that there was no roasting in Seattle.

[Feyd]

You are right... Wikipedia confirms that they learned from Peets on how to properly roast beans... But it also does say that durring the first year of business Starbucks just bought their beans from Peets.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Feyd

You are right... Wikipedia confirms that they learned from Peets on how to properly roast beans... But it also does say that durring the first year of business Starbucks just bought their beans from Peets.

Sure, I'd believe that Peets sold beans to Starbucks, but not the other way around. Peets still manages to do a dark roast that doesn't taste scorched, something that Starbucks doesn't seem to be able to do. I suppose some people like the burnt flavor, but I'm not one of them.

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Sure, I'd believe that Peets sold beans to Starbucks, but not the other way around. Peets still manages to do a dark roast that doesn't taste scorched, something that Starbucks doesn't seem to be able to do. I suppose some people like the burnt flavor, but I'm not one of them.

I don't like that burnt flavour. Gah I'm craving coffeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[san~man]

Home: Green Gecko 100% kona, best "esoteric" beans I've had yet. Better than GJs peaberry IMO. French pressed, of course

Out: 'Bucks venti iced coffee, primarily for the caffeine content

[Feyd]

Yeah I can't stand Starbucks coffee either.. or their espresso for that matter. Always tastes like a burnt asshole because the people making it have NO idea what they are doing.

[Kensta335]

Not much of a coffee drinker. I only drink Vietnamese Iced Coffee.

[infinitekidM2C]

Starbucks used to be decent back in the day...at least that's what i remember...mass production = lower quality standards...their iced coffee is good for hangover killing though lol

[BTM]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

...their iced coffee is good for hangover killing though lol

Xinfinity

Iced + shot =