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Battle of Electric RWD Sedans

Enjoy!

[Scrapula]

I will have to watch, although this looks like the Air Pure vs eDrive40. My final choice was between the Air Touring vs M60. Without watching the video, I chose the BMW because of the technology and cool stuff like the ambient light bar. The Lucid had my favorite interior however (but not the Pure which only comes in black vegan).

[SJCFlyer]

I thought this review was very well thought out and stated. Like the previous poster, I really wish they'd compared Lucid Touring (or Grand Touring) vs the M60 variant (maybe they will!).

That's what we were comparing and the up-market versions of each make the differences just more pronounced IMO. BMW was clearly more quiet (no whine like the Lucid when everything- stereo/HVAC - was off). My wife did not like the sub-40 mph driving experience at ALL with the Lucid, especially compared to the BMW which was a joy.

No question interior space and storage advantages go to Lucid...but we didn't find the BMW lacking, either. BUT. We were surprised there was no mention of the major Lucid flaw - unless you are pretty short, you are absolutely going to hit your head getting into either the front or the back seat. (Those low .cd numbers come at a cost!)

Lastly, there is the "the price vs individuality" factor. We get it - as a start up, Lucid has to be like the Ford Model T, very limited on options. But unless we opted for a left over '23, the cost of the Lucid Grand Touring was $123k. Conversely, we checked every single box except Frozen paint color...and the MSRP was $102k, and we were able to not only get a substantial discount, but it won't look like every other i5 M60 out there.

We'll see, long term, if we're still as happy with our soon-to-be delivered from TX i5 M60...but it clearly sparked more excitement to us than the Lucid did!

[Scrapula]

I am 5’1” and I still hit my head getting in and out of the Lucid.

[RichardInCA]

This was a bit better than the i5 review they posted, but I’m still left thinking that the main difference was which car was better to drift.

[Windshieldfarmer]

Pretty balanced review. Sounds like Lucid has a great platform but is far less developed in areas that can make or break the ownership experience; electronics, user interface, build quality. I’m intrigued by Lucid but would not own/lease one at this point.

[Scrapula]

Originally Posted by RichardInCA

This was a bit better than the i5 review they posted, but I’m still left thinking that the main difference was which car was better to drift.

I agree. People who buy large sedans aren’t interested in kicking out the rear end on a track. They just don’t understand the market for these vehicles. The things that matter, like the technology, screen displays, Lucid has no HUD which wasn’t mentioned, the low quality materials in the Pure with a cloth center console cover next to the cup holders (horrible idea), no option for leather, one interior color - black, etc.

[syslakm]

Originally Posted by Scrapula

I agree. People who buy large sedans aren’t interested in kicking out the rear end on a track. They just don’t understand the market for these vehicles. The things that matter, like the technology, screen displays, Lucid has no HUD which wasn’t mentioned, the low quality materials in the Pure with a cloth center console cover next to the cup holders (horrible idea), no option for leather, one interior color - black, etc.

I also agree. I think as car reviewers, they're probably pre-disposed to cars tht are "funner" to drive (as evidenced in their video). However, when you're buying a car in this price point, liveability, comfort and luxury are probably more important considerations. And it can be hard to get a sense of these issues until you've lived with the car for several months.

[footie]

I have long had a major issue with motoring journalists and these guys are no different. Every single one of them are only truly interested in whether it’s entertaining to drive or in other words will it throw the tail on demand.

Well frankly in the REAL WORLD the number of people willing to slide a +100K car are very few and as for the rest all they really want is a comfortable, reliable, quick car which can take corners without throwing a surprise that might catch them out and put them in the ditch.

Saving this drifting BS for a dedicated track toy not for a big luxury saloon. Only my opinion but the i5 wiped the floor with the Lucid in every area that truly mattered.

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by footie

I have long had a major issue with motoring journalists and these guys are no different. Every single one of them are only truly interested in whether it’s entertaining to drive or in other words will it throw the tail on demand.

Well frankly in the REAL WORLD the number of people willing to slide a +100K car are very few and as for the rest all they really want is a comfortable, reliable, quick car which can take corners without throwing a surprise that might catch them out and put them in the ditch.

Saving this drifting BS for a dedicated track toy not for a big luxury saloon. Only my opinion but the i5 wiped the floor with the Lucid in every area that truly mattered.

I too prefer the i5 but the Lucid wins is several important categories including passenger space, storage, and range. Competition is a good thing…

[footie]

Originally Posted by Windshieldfarmer

I too prefer the i5 but the Lucid wins is several important categories including passenger space, storage, and range. Competition is a good thing…

For probably 90% of customers the space the i5 offers is enough as is the storage, range I can agree with ideal you could complete your journey without charging would be nice but for most people the range on offer by the likes of the i5 is good enough because the average yearly mileage for most Americans in less than 14K and in the UK its 7.5K.

[Scrapula]

Originally Posted by Windshieldfarmer

I too prefer the i5 but the Lucid wins is several important categories including passenger space, storage, and range. Competition is a good thing…

If I had only one vehicle and needed storage and range, it would need to be the Lucid Grand Touring to get good range. Probably the best vehicle in the $110 to $120k range. Reports on the Lucid forums say that people with the Air Pure are getting around 250 miles. We are all exceeding that with our i5s.

[syslakm]

Good points about the Lucid.

However, depending on where you live, access to qualified technicians (aka the dealership network) is an important consideration, especially when dealing with a new brand.

When I bought my Tesla, I was seriously concerned about it needing any service as the nearest service center was over 300km away (and I lived in a major urban centre in Canada).

The fact that the closest Lucid dealership (as well as Rivian) was more than 1000km away reason enough to disqualify it as a serious contender in my purchase decision

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by syslakm

Good points about the Lucid.

However, depending on where you live, access to qualified technicians (aka the dealership network) is an important consideration, especially when dealing with a new brand.

When I bought my Tesla, I was seriously concerned about it needing any service as the nearest service center was over 300km away (and I lived in a major urban centre in Canada).

The fact that the closest Lucid dealership (as well as Rivian) was more than 1000km away reason enough to disqualify it as a serious contender in my purchase decision

This too is why I looked at BMW. I previously owned a Model 3 Tesla and had good remote service but I was always concerned that any significant problem would require a flatbed ride to a service center 200 miles away. I don’t know about Lucid but Tesla does not provide service loaners….i believe they typically provide Uber credits. Having local service options with a loaner is important IMHO. I was two months w/o my IX due to a parts issue and I had a decent BMW loaner the whole time.