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Considering most people carry their phones with them most of the time, this seems like a crazy oversight. Why doesn’t the phone just replace the traditional fob and still require the door handle sensor to unlock the doors?
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I noticed that happen through a wall once or twice, or when my wife would randomly ask me if I unlocked my car. It seems to stop reacting though - I couldn’t work out whether that was just patchy connectivity. When the car goes into a less sensitive state it sometimes won’t unlock until I grab the door handle. Can’t say it’s a big deal and both scenarios seem to happen less now. Who knows if there’s some sort of AI/ML algo in the background trying to optimize this function.
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Edit: on second thought... that's probably a bad idea. I can just picture myself being locked out because the car thinks my shoes are too muddy or something. Last edited by SpaceSilver.X1; 02-03-2024 at 03:19 PM.. |
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The G60 honestly reminded me a lot of a larger more mature and refined G20 M340i which I had prior to my 2023 G30 540i.
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[QUOTE=BimmerGuyFL78;30870124]Absolutely. So I am what you would consider a perfectionist so I pay very close attention to the details.
On the G30 5-series you will notice that the lower sections of the door card (interior door panel) is a soft touch material that has some what of padding that when you press with your finger tips, has what what feels like cushion, the G60 feels like they only wrapped a thin vinyl over hard plastic over that same area. The center console/transmission area between the driver and front passenger on the G30 is all soft touch padded material, on the G60 the lower section of that same area is now hard touch plastic. The dash on the G60 is padded and of high quality but it no longer the stitching that the G30 had standard on the LCI models. Same thing for the upper interior door padding. The standard seats on the G60 no longer have power adjustable head rests. This has been a standard feather on all types of BMW 5-series seats since the E34 5-series. If you want power headrests for the front seats of the G60, you now have to pay extra for the luxury seating package (which I would get not only for the power headrests but for the ventilated front seats). Also, the Luxury, seating package does not include the upper section of the back rest that articulates front and back. The front and rear cupholders on the G60 No longer have a cover tray conceals them like the G30 does. Comfort access now only works using the front door handles on the G60. On the G30 Comfort access was available on all four doors. The Harmon Kardon stereo in the G60 Is more like the best stereo [...] Thanks for offering us such a detailed appraisal. Crikey, it does sound like with the new gen they have stepped down on a number of immediately palpable fronts. Of course, it shouldn't surprise us that they're cutting corners on interior particulars, given the move toward more homogeneous cabins that ID8 by itself heralded a couple of years ago (thereby bannishing bespoke binnacles for good). But it does make you wonder, especially in a market like ours (in the UK) where the 40i will soon be considered a heretical possession, whether all this homogeneity and lack of nice stitched dashwork is also part of the uniformity drive (or banality masquerading as efficiency and sustainability) that ultimately curves, as we all know, towards the beige landscape of cars-as-short-term-appliances. Will be interesting to see what kind of attempt at luxury they make with the new M5...
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I got my 2024 540i a few weeks ago. The digital key card doesn’t activate the comfort access when I walk near the car. Just if I tap it to the handle. The key fob itself if near about 8 feet unlocks the doors and locks when walking away (I setup iDrive option that way). I, like others have said, was annoyed by the digital key PLUS on my iPhone, with it activating the car when I was in my kitchen near my driveway or bringing the trash cans past the car even. I only activate passive entry on the key plus on my iPhone when needed now.
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Furthermore, - No airplane rear seat pocket. - No rear climate control. - No door pocket lining material. It is now just hard plastic like in a base Corolla. All your keys will rattle there. - Whenever I get out the car from the rear seat, there is a hard plastic protrusion on the front seat that hits and hurts your leg every time. Just like in an old Kia Rio. - If you choose any other interior color, the color will be limited to the seats and small portions of the door ONLY! The interior materials feel way inferior compared to a well specs Toyota. I really don't like it. I hope BMW is not following Mercedes steps when they cheap out their cars. The car I tested (i5 M60) doesn't feel a 90k car at all. Last edited by Hassan1490; 02-04-2024 at 04:01 PM.. |
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100% agree on the Toyota Corolla comparison.
I am blown away by how cheap some pieces feel against the G30. The absolute eye sore are the sun visors. The plastic used there is an embarrassment. This is a part frequently touched (unlike lower doorcards) what on earth BMW? Seats - I had two G30s, pre and post LCI both cars had nappa leather, ventilated, heated and massaged seats. Initially I thought I would miss the G30 seats but... the seats in G60 are unbelievably comfortable. I do not miss the upper back tilt adjustment at all. Overall seating position (for my body type) is much better and that includes the steering wheel, which I think is perfectly shaped. Someone said that before (not my line) but I will repeat it here...I think BMW finally built a prefect Lexus minus the use of some hard plastics refurbished from public school folding chairs. |
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Buttons, knobs and sensors cost money. Not much, mind you, especially considering the retail on these cars, but this is the first generation of 5 Series to go BACKWARDS in terms of luxury and features from the model before it. The touchscreen has to be there anyway, and it costs nothing to add “buttons” to it, but real buttons do cost money. BMW (and every other company it seems) are perfectly willing to sacrifice points with their existing client base to potentially gain points with a younger one, or one in China. A curious move, and a bad one in my mind. #savethebuttons (if that’s even a thing ) |
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The positioning of the 5 series on BMW’s November corporate presentation shows where BMW see the car relative to other offerings on the “compact to luxury” scale
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Camry and Lexus ES are the same car.
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Maybe so but the Avalon is a stretched Camry.
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