[Burrcold]

One additional benefit of keeping the RS5 order is that I still have my $4.5k winter wheel and tire setup from my previous RS5. I know I could sell them but I definitely wouldn't even get half that cost back.

[Red Bread]

Next year's Macan GTS gets the current Turbo motor, so it should be a good bit cheaper than the current Turbo. I think it's not out until Q1 though, may not help you.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Next year's Macan GTS gets the current Turbo motor, so it should be a good bit cheaper than the current Turbo. I think it's not out until Q1 though, may not help you.

It's basically as expensive as the Turbo is now (the build site is already up in Canada). They just shifted the prices accordingly. Otherwise I would have jumped at a 2022 GTS (former Turbo) at a (former) GTS price.

They won't be out until Q2 in North America also.

[Red Bread]

Yeah, you Canadians get updated pricing much quicker than we do down here.

[Germanauto]

Since the G80 is not under consideration, I'm going to show my bias and parrot for the Giulia Quadrofoglio. Just give it a test drive, trust me. Your perception of handling and how fast a car can steer will change. It is a street legal go-kart. Interior is no Audi but was updated nicely for the 2020 refresh. Material and build quality are solid in the cabin, ride is compliant and livable. But keep in mind there is no AWD option or sunroof.

C63 is nice, but main novelty is the V8. Otherwise it's just an alright handling car. More of a straight-line brute. Unnecessarily stiff ride and you feel like you're sitting in a bathtub due to the high belt-line and dash.

On the topic of the Macan, I can rave all day as I do in other threads. I drive a family member's pretty frequently. However, I notice immediately once I get back into the Alfa that a CUV cannot replace a proper sport sedan if you truly want the most "connected" driving experience. Plus I agree with you that the Macan is extremely common. Everybody has one, you need to get it in a wild color to feel like you're driving something special.

[workerONE]

AMG E53... Edit nvm it's 100k Canadian. Maybe the Audi

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Since the G80 is not under consideration, I'm going to show my bias and parrot for the Giulia Quadrofoglio. Just give it a test drive, trust me. Your perception of handling and how fast a car can steer will change. It is a street legal go-kart. Interior is no Audi but was updated nicely for the 2020 refresh. Material and build quality are solid in the cabin, ride is compliant and livable. But keep in mind there is no AWD option or sunroof.

C63 is nice, but main novelty is the V8. Otherwise it's just an alright handling car. More of a straight-line brute. Unnecessarily stiff ride and you feel like you're sitting in a bathtub due to the high belt-line and dash.

On the topic of the Macan, I can rave all day as I do in other threads. I drive a family member's pretty frequently. However, I notice immediately once I get back into the Alfa that a CUV cannot replace a proper sport sedan if you truly want the most "connected" driving experience. Plus I agree with you that the Macan is extremely common. Everybody has one, you need to get it in a wild color to feel like you're driving something special.

The Giulia is one of the only in the class I haven't driven. I'll definitely give it a try!

[damnitBobby]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Comfort is also why I started looking at the Macan Turbo, GLC63s, X3m Comp (not that comfortable), but I just don't know if I'll regret an SUV after a few months.

I had a ‘18 SQ5 for 9 month which was very unusual because historically I have kept my cars anywhere from 3-8 years. And the SQ5 was a great SUV! Practical, smooth quiet ride (air suspension was great), looked and sounded good.. but you never forget you were in a SUV. The weight and top heaviness was always there. Make no mistake about it these sports SUV’s simply cannot replace sports sedans or sports cars. I had regret settle in a month after getting the SQ5 but mistakenly thought I would get used to it. Never did so sold it.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

I had a ‘18 SQ5 for 9 month which was very unusual because historically I have kept my cars anywhere from 3-8 years. And the SQ5 was a great SUV! Practical, smooth quiet ride (air suspension was great), looked and sounded good.. but you never forget you were in a SUV. The weight and top heaviness was always there. Make no mistake about it these sports SUV’s simply cannot replace sports sedans or sports cars. I had regret settle in a month after getting the SQ5 but mistakenly thought I would get used to it. Never did so sold it.

I feel like the same would happen with me as well. Plus we already have a Q7 for any "utility" needs. I've had the Range Rover for a month and I'm already bored of it (it's not terribly slow either, it's the supercharged V6 version...R Dynamic P340s).

[nicholasn]

Not sure if it would fit in your budget due to US/Canada price discrepancy, but honestly forget the RS5 and get a CT5-V Blackwing. There will never be another RWD sedan with a 668 horsepower V8 and proper manual transmission.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by nicholasn

Not sure if it would fit in your budget due to US/Canada price discrepancy, but honestly forget the RS5 and get a CT5-V Blackwing. There will never be another RWD sedan with a 668 horsepower V8 and proper manual transmission.

Seems like a nice car, but I can't do GM. It's not a brand snob thing (since after all it's a Cadillac), but I just don't like their design whatsoever. Plus I need an automatic, I'd love a manual, but it has to be auto.

[BMWCCA1]

We have a 2021 M5 that just arrived with a sticker around $108k. Least expensive one in the country. Not Competition, just "normal".

I also have a confirmed (and sold) order for a 2022 M5 CS scheduled to be built in September which will have a sticker of around $140k. Neither had any problem with missing or unavailable options.

[Namelss]

I’d sit on the RS5 and wait for it. I’m in Texas however, so we don’t have winter to deal with. November will be here before we know it!

[Burrcold]

I've decided to keep the RS5 order. There was a C63s sedan that was available now, and a G80 M3 Competition xDrive that would be arriving in a few weeks I could snag. At the end of the day, although both really nice (and better performance) options, they weren't exactly how I would factory build them and I think that would forever annoy me. The RS5 Sportback is exactly the options I want and undercuts both in price (not that price was tops on my list but it is a bonus). Thanks for all the suggestions, and now it's just a waiting game.