Which X5 and why?

shoei · 08-11-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Get the X5d. I have a Touareg TDi (and Jetta TDi) and LOVE to drive them. We looked at X5d's, but found a terrific deal on the Treg.

Both my TDi's have a tune and exhaust work, and the Touareg is a torque BEAST (600 lb ft), plus it gets 35 mpg. My Jetta get's 50+ mpg, and puts down 340 lb ft torque!

A company in Raleigh (Bimmer Performance Center) is heavy into BMW diesel tuning. If you haven't tuned the 335d, check them out. They also tune X5d's.

Being in FL, you don't have emission inspections for diesel cars either...

A tune and DPF delete on the X5d, it'll put down X5M numbers

What are you, one of them M235 drivers?!!

"It's a real M car..." Next, you'll be saying your e93 is lightweight...

Now hurry up and see if the customized plate is taken for "Miss Piggy"...

Aatish · 08-11-2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DSB335d

Aren't both of those production years affected by the same problems as mentioned above? In regards to the 50i model anyway.

Can't comment on the 5.0i, but my friend had a US made '13 35d and my dad had a German made '12 35d. My dad put 75k on it in 1.5 years, no problems what so ever. My friend had 38k in 2 years, had a lot of minor electrical problems.

The engines were bullet proof for both instances. Honestly, I'd get the diesel. For day to day driving, torque really shines. For long distance driving, nothing can touch it. Only problem is the add blue, which is a bitch and a half to replenish in those model years.

DSB335d · 08-11-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Get the X5d. I have a Touareg TDi (and Jetta TDi) and LOVE to drive them. We looked at X5d's, but found a terrific deal on the Treg.

Both my TDi's have a tune and exhaust work, and the Touareg is a torque BEAST (600 lb ft), plus it gets 35 mpg. My Jetta get's 50+ mpg, and puts down 340 lb ft torque!

A company in Raleigh (Bimmer Performance Center) is heavy into BMW diesel tuning. If you haven't tuned the 335d, check them out. They also tune X5d's.

Being in FL, you don't have emission inspections for diesel cars either...

A tune and DPF delete on the X5d, it'll put down X5M numbers

Yeah I have been following the posts about BPC. When my extended warranty is up on my 335d I'm getting some work done

ASBSECU E93 · 08-11-2016, 11:55 AM

OP - remember, DPF and AdBlue can be tuned out....

Neither my Treg or the Jetta use AdBlue (Anymore

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ASBSECU E93 · 08-11-2016, 11:56 AM

Hey shoei - this is a man's conversation about Diesel POWER and shit....you keep it down

shoei · 08-11-2016, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Hey shoei - this is a man's conversation about Diesel POWER and shit....you keep it down

If this is a man's conversation, then why are you and your convertible a part of it ??

Rygel XXV · 08-11-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DSB335d

I'm considering getting an X5 and I'm leaning towards a 35d version because I enjoy my '11 335d.
I am looking at the 2013 & 2014 models and it seems there are a handful of differences between the two. My wife is trying to convince me on the 50i model, the horsepower and torque are very appealing, the mpg's and reliability aren't.
Anyway I figured the best place to ask about which one to get would be here.

I owned an X6 35i from 2010 and then traded last year to an X6M, both on the previous E71 platform, so very similar to the X5.

I found the 35i satisfactory for daily driver duties, especially after giving it the Dinan stage 2 tune, but the M has been considerably more fun. Loads of power on tap immediately, great V8 sounds, and it feels like it doesn't have to work as hard to reach and maintain higher speeds. The handling has surprisingly felt similar to the 35i despite the weight difference, at least for daily driving. That being said, the 35i was better on fuel mileage and got less interest from people trying to egg on a race. Also, I haven't had to replace the tires yet, but the performance tires that came with the M prevented me from taking it to Tahoe this past season during the chain control days, whereas I had changed the 35i to good all seasons without thinking twice so had no problems with multiple trips up there.

My recommendation is to get the previous generation M with an extended warranty. Depending on age and mileage, cost can probably be about the same as a new X of any variety.

MKSixer · 08-11-2016, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Hey shoei - this is a man's conversation about Diesel POWER and shit....you keep it down

You had to go and yank his chain...

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Originally Posted by shoei

If this is a man's conversation, then why are you and your convertible a part of it ??

Go back to the garden and pee some more. Or not. You should not take your freedom for granted after the last incident.

ASBSECU E93 · 08-11-2016, 01:43 PM

shoei - well, you do drive a weedeater, so technically you can join the conversation:

chumley · 08-11-2016, 08:21 PM

Make sure you drive them all and do your research on extended warranty's both from BMW and 3rd party. My wife had an '11 for almost 5 years and it was more or less reliable for the first 4 years or so then a train-wreck after that. BMW extended had no deductible but covered less items and for less total mileage and was around $3k. 3rd party covered out to 100k but was more than 2x the cost of BMW's (that should tell you something). I wouldn't even consider owning one of these without a warranty.

Not sure how these Ms. Daisy's out there drive but we got no better than 14-16 mpg around town and on its best Olympic moment it might have cracked low 20's on the highway. I honestly think it's so heavy that the V8 working easier might not be much worse.

WreckerX5d · 08-11-2016, 09:33 PM

You're already biased towards a diesel so might as well get one. BPC tune and BDP pipe it and you'll be set. I rode in the BDP X5d and his was pretty fun.

ASBSECU E93 · 08-11-2016, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrecker335d

You're already biased towards a diesel so might as well get one. BPC tune and BDP pipe it and you'll be set. I rode in the BDP X5d and his was pretty fun.

What were your TQ numbers after the tune?

Draper · 08-11-2016, 11:51 PM

Just sold my 50i, and it was a great daily driver. I had a 35d loaner a few times and that would be my second choice over the 35i.

M3Fanatics · 08-12-2016, 04:15 AM

I have a 15 35i m kit and if I am going to do it again id go with the v8 as I feel that it's underpowered

Dackelone · 08-12-2016, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Aatish

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the e70 X5 had different production locations. 12s were made in Germany and shipped, while 13s and onward were made in USA.

ALL X5's and X3's are all built in Spartanburg, SC - USA. Even diesel model X5/X3 are built in SC and exported to the rest of the world.

The only X-model built in Germany is the X1, and that is built in Leipzig, bc it shares so many parts with the 1er/2er which is also built there(along with the M2).

WreckerX5d · 08-12-2016, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wrecker335d

You're already biased towards a diesel so might as well get one. BPC tune and BDP pipe it and you'll be set. I rode in the BDP X5d and his was pretty fun.

What were your TQ numbers after the tune?

Somewhere in the 550wtq range.

ASBSECU E93 · 08-12-2016, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

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Originally Posted by Wrecker335d

You're already biased towards a diesel so might as well get one. BPC tune and BDP pipe it and you'll be set. I rode in the BDP X5d and his was pretty fun.

What were your TQ numbers after the tune?

Somewhere in the 550wtq range.

Nuff said

1MOREMOD · 08-12-2016, 08:51 AM

+1 on x5d, I have one also. Don't have dfp delete or whatever just piggyback tune and good enough. Works well as tow rig also.

Dackelone · 08-12-2016, 02:26 PM

Peter from TuningWerk(in Munich) told me a funny story... he used to own a X5M... a few times each year he needs to go to the Ring and test his products and on customer race days and such. His X5M was making upwards of 700PS... but when he would drive the 1,200 km round trip... he would always drive very fast... he said his X5M would do almost 350 kph! He said Ferrari owners would look at him in disbelief as he blew past them on the Autobahn. But he would have to fully tank up for fuel four or five times for this 1,200 km trip! That gets old quite fast. He then bought a X5 M550d - he saved over 60% on his yearly fuel bills. I think he said he could make the trip on two tanks of diesel now. AND that was bc he had tuned his X5d to produce close to 400PS with over 1,000Nm of tq!! At first it was making more tq but the tranny couldn't handle that much! Top speed was around ~300 kph with his X5d.

I thought the fuel savings was funny... bc here is a guy who can afford fuel... but chose a X5d bc it made far more torque and was almost as fast as his X5M.

Cattivo · 08-12-2016, 06:34 PM

I have the 50i and x5m...both have been very reliable and fun to drive

DSB335d · 08-12-2016, 10:02 PM

My wife wanted to test drive a 2016 Ford Edge Sport AWD w/ 2.7L Ecoboost 315hp/350tq...

It had a decent ride, the power felt pretty good and could comfortably carry 5 people.

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chumley Captain 51 Rep 776 Posts Drives: 2009 335 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (1)	Make sure you drive them all and do your research on extended warranty's both from BMW and 3rd party. My wife had an '11 for almost 5 years and it was more or less reliable for the first 4 years or so then a train-wreck after that. BMW extended had no deductible but covered less items and for less total mileage and was around $3k. 3rd party covered out to 100k but was more than 2x the cost of BMW's (that should tell you something). I wouldn't even consider owning one of these without a warranty. Not sure how these Ms. Daisy's out there drive but we got no better than 14-16 mpg around town and on its best Olympic moment it might have cracked low 20's on the highway. I honestly think it's so heavy that the V8 working easier might not be much worse. __________________ MHD flash, DCI, BMW PE, ETS FMIC, Powerflex, SWS8xi's, VMR 803's in Solar Rain, LUX V4
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Dackelone European Editor 10857 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	Peter from TuningWerk(in Munich) told me a funny story... he used to own a X5M... a few times each year he needs to go to the Ring and test his products and on customer race days and such. His X5M was making upwards of 700PS... but when he would drive the 1,200 km round trip... he would always drive very fast... he said his X5M would do almost 350 kph! He said Ferrari owners would look at him in disbelief as he blew past them on the Autobahn. But he would have to fully tank up for fuel four or five times for this 1,200 km trip! That gets old quite fast. He then bought a X5 M550d - he saved over 60% on his yearly fuel bills. I think he said he could make the trip on two tanks of diesel now. AND that was bc he had tuned his X5d to produce close to 400PS with over 1,000Nm of tq!! At first it was making more tq but the tranny couldn't handle that much! Top speed was around ~300 kph with his X5d. I thought the fuel savings was funny... bc here is a guy who can afford fuel... but chose a X5d bc it made far more torque and was almost as fast as his X5M. __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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