No Mazdaspeed models coming

Never_Enough · 04-08-2016, 08:14 AM

I can't be the only Mazdaspeed fan on here. I was hoping for a new Speed6, or at least a Mazdaspeed Miata again, but not going to happen any time soon.

Sad days indeed.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/04/07/n...peed6-delayed/

cloakster · 04-08-2016, 08:17 AM

They mustve been delayed so much on the new MazdaSpeed 3 that they just said fuck it. Seems dumb for then since the next gen STI, Golf R and Genesis models will be out by then.

fhaze3 · 04-08-2016, 08:17 AM

I loved my speed6.

Sephiroth · 04-08-2016, 08:40 AM

Its a small company with limited resources. They keep saying they are working on a rotary and if true that might be sucking up the resources they have.

Never_Enough · 04-08-2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Its a small company with limited resources. They keep saying they are working on a rotary and if true that might be sucking up the resources they have.

Who wants a slow, no torque & unreliable rotary in 2016?

Sephiroth · 04-08-2016, 08:50 AM

Apparently not everyone thinks like you

Never_Enough · 04-08-2016, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Apparently not everyone thinks like you

& not everyone thinks like folks that want it, but that doesn't answer my question.

TylerJohnson97 · 04-08-2016, 08:57 AM

Would love to see a MazdaSpeed6 with it. I love the new bodystyle!

Blksnowflake · 04-08-2016, 09:06 AM

Would love an awd Speed3. They let it die just like Mitsu did for the Evo. Horrible timing too, high horsepower and turbos are selling very well now.

TBN54 · 04-08-2016, 09:29 AM

**** the Speed3, when will there be a comeback of the FD RX-7?

Beartato · 04-08-2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeZ06

Who wants a slow, no torque & unreliable rotary in 2016?

I'd take a well built RX-9 over the Speed series any day.

Never_Enough · 04-08-2016, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TBN54

**** the Speed3, when will there be a comeback of the FD RX-7?

You can't top that car. Look at the shitty RX-8. I don't have high hopes for the RX-9 or whatever they come out with.

oolas3 · 04-08-2016, 09:57 AM

Hell I'd be happy if they just had an engine option on the regular 6 that moved hp up to the 220-240hp range.

Viffermike · 04-08-2016, 10:35 AM

If this is any indication, a new RX is coming. I don't think Mazda would have bothered with this if it wasn't doing some major R&D to improve what is the rotary's biggest reliability-related weakness: even cooling.

If it's good ... I may not be in a BMW by this time in 2019.

That said ... I agree with Blksnowflake : Mazda's timing isn't very good regarding the Speed models' deprecation. But the company's got other struggles. Despite all the glowing reviews, the fuel pump recall for Mazda3s last fall really hurt that model's sales, to the point where they're selling well below invoice, on average, in many U.S. markets. A friend just picked up a new 2016 Mazda3 GT for almost $2,500 below invoice last week.

TylerJohnson97 · 04-08-2016, 10:36 AM

Hopefully a new RX would be nice. They did well with the new looks on the MX5!

Viffermike · 04-08-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerJohnson97

Hopefully a new RX would be nice. They did well with the new looks on the MX5!

Yes it did. IMHO, it makes the Fiat 128 variant look like a kit car some Northern Italian hobbyist threw together in a couple months -- one of the few times a Japanese design trumps an Italian one on the same platform.

TylerJohnson97 · 04-08-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Viffermike

Yes it did. IMHO, it makes the Fiat 128 variant look like a kit car some Northern Italian hobbyist threw together in a couple months -- one of the few times a Japanese design trumps an Italian one on the same platform.

Exactly!

FriskyDingo · 04-08-2016, 10:51 AM

Bummer. I always kinda had a thing for the MS6. The MS3 doesn't do anything for me. I don't like unruly FWD cars.

mkoesel · 04-08-2016, 11:43 AM

Nevermind what they call it, the Mazda6 needs the new turbocharged SkyActive motor badly. The car looks great, and I'm sure it has great handling too, but its slow with the naturally aspirated engine as the only option. A turbocharged model would be at the top of most any enthusiasts list for a FWD family car.

Every other family sedan offers a ~250hp-300hp motor. Sure, these are a low percentage of overall sales, but for a Mazda offering, you really expect it to be there.

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Viffermike Colonel 1789 Rep 2,959 Posts Drives: Coming: '25 SG/black M2 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Big D iTrader: (0)	If this is any indication, a new RX is coming. I don't think Mazda would have bothered with this if it wasn't doing some major R&D to improve what is the rotary's biggest reliability-related weakness: even cooling. If it's good ... I may not be in a BMW by this time in 2019. That said ... I agree with Blksnowflake : Mazda's timing isn't very good regarding the Speed models' deprecation. But the company's got other struggles. Despite all the glowing reviews, the fuel pump recall for Mazda3s last fall really hurt that model's sales, to the point where they're selling well below invoice, on average, in many U.S. markets. A friend just picked up a new 2016 Mazda3 GT for almost $2,500 below invoice last week. __________________ --Life is a journey made more exciting with a fast car.-- --Helmets are for closers.-- <<Current: 'Johnny Boy' '23 CR MINI JCW 2-door. Gone (but not forgotten): 'Allie' '18 NBM Porsche 718 Cayman; 'The Blackened' '15 MG 228i M Sport w/aFe filter/scoop, JL 600/6 w/Hertz drivers, P3Cars multigauge, other goodies>>
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mkoesel Moderator 7545 Rep 19,366 Posts Drives: No BMW for now Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI iTrader: (1)	Nevermind what they call it, the Mazda6 needs the new turbocharged SkyActive motor badly. The car looks great, and I'm sure it has great handling too, but its slow with the naturally aspirated engine as the only option. A turbocharged model would be at the top of most any enthusiasts list for a FWD family car. Every other family sedan offers a ~250hp-300hp motor. Sure, these are a low percentage of overall sales, but for a Mazda offering, you really expect it to be there.
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