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Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Only pussies need music to work out. At some point you have to come to terms with the fact that you're lazy ass needs to motivate yourself. No stretching or water either.... get thirsty, drink your tears!



j/k, just don't have a specific playlist.

I will agree with first part. If you are dicking around with keeping your ear buds in you ain't working out

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Lups

Omc I am retranslating to a song made by a band that apparently I've met.

I was doing this and and one of my kids shared a childhood memory.

"Mom, that's the man I asked if he is the santa at the grocery store. You said to the man sorry for bothering you but can we take a pic of you and the kid. The man let us take it and asked if he should be worried about the age group that's his fans. You told him no, you're going to show the pic to me when I'm old as a proof you were a decent parent.

You never got the joke after dad laughed his ass off when he saw the shot".

In my defence, I found the band this spring. Apparently everyone else has been listening to them for ten years.

So the song.

In finland (as is everywhere) the depression of young men is an issue. This song is about a man who you can think is so depressed he doesn't even care how it all ends, or as I see it, as him being down but still seeing positive things about his meaning to the world.

Anyway, mokoma wrote a song, an upbeat song about the lows of life. As is with us finns, it's loud and dark, but the humor pushes through. I find it hilarious and to a point.


So this is a song about young men and depression. It has a vibe none of these has, this actually tells them to fucking move on.

Kasvot painettu maata vasten
Painettu multaan varta vasten
Aion itsestäni kunnolla ottaa selon
Punnita vaihdot ja ehdot ja elon
Olen päättänyt viimeinkin kuolla
Samapa teenkö sen täällä vai tuolla
Tässä on sentään tuoretta multaa
Ja madoille multa on kalliimpi kultaa
Facing down, facing the dirt.
On purpose, really.
I'm going to figure myself out for once,
See the options, and the clauses of being.
I have decided to die,
Here, there, doesn't matter to me
Here the dirt is fresh and for at least to worms, that’s worth
More than gold.
Pitkään olen ollut jo vainaa
Miksipä nähdä siis liiemmin vaivaa
Arkkua tehdä, kuoppaa kaivaa
Hospotit, aamenet, helvetit, taivaat
Olen vakaasti päättänyt kuolla
Tehdä sen tässä, tässä, en tuolla
Tuokaa päälleni ruumiinkivi
Yhdellä jälleen harvenee rivit
I've been dead for long.
Why would I bother with the hassle?
A gasket, a hole,
(I can't translate this, the church protocols and talks of heaven and hell, funeral)
It is my decision to die.
Here, there, just not a second later.
Just bring a headstone upon me.
You yet again lose an other. (a reference to the suicide rates of young men in Finland).

Joskus se antaa, joskus se ottaa
Elämä osaa ottaa
Ihmisen osana on osaa ottaa
Ihminen osaa ottaa
It gives, it takes, it really takes at times.
Life has it's way to take.
The part of being a human is to take it,
A human knows how to take it. (this is a reference to school shooters, and them being after a revenge to me, but many would say the point is that we should see what we do to others)

Minä olen
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
I am,
Dead, deader, the deadest (as is, dead (corpse) deader depressed, deadest too depressed even to do a suicide).
Siinä hän makaa, niin kuin petaa
Työllä ja tuskalla minutkin tapetaan
Tuttu tarina kaikille meistä
Siitä on turha vääntää peistä
Ei tarvitse hikoilla enää
Potkia teloja, tehdä tenää
On kärsivän hyvä olla
Kera matojen kuoleman vainiolla
There he lies, like he made it for himself.
It took effort to kick him down this bad.
We all know this story,
No need to discuss it again.
No need to blame anyone.
The sufferer is happy now.
With the worms, in the Valhalla.

Joskus se antaa, joskus se ottaa
Elämä osaa ottaa
It gives, it takes.
Life knows how to take.
Minä olen
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein

Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein

Joskus se antaa, joskus se ottaa
Elämä osaa ottaa
Ihmisen osana on osaa ottaa
Ihminen osaa ottaa

Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein

Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein
Kuollein

Amazing..

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Lups

Omc I am retranslating to a song made by a band that apparently I've met.

I was doing this and and one of my kids shared a childhood memory.
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These are great lyrics and I like your more optimistic interpretation. Funny, in the US, we don't really discuss male feelings. We are generally assumed to not have them, in terms of public perception. This is a great song. Have you heard Metallica's song called "One". It is more specific to post war injury related depression but is very similar in tone and feel to this. Thank you for translating and sharing the cool story. I imagine "little Lups" or "junior Lups" as a death metal groupie now. Heh. Too funny.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

These are great lyrics and I like your more optimistic interpretation. Funny, in the US, we don't really discuss male feelings. We are generally assumed to not have them, in terms of public perception. This is a great song. Have you heard Metallica's song called "One". It is more specific to post war injury related depression but is very similar in tone and feel to this. Thank you for translating and sharing the cool story. I imagine "little Lups" or "junior Lups" as a death metal groupie now. Heh. Too funny.

That has been a big topic here ever since someone decided to analyze the suicide rates of young men. We have programs here for the medical professionals to learn to spot troubled young men and also programs for the depressed youth. One of my close relatives made this decision too, and I've been following the strugle the remains of the family has gone through afterwards.

Metallica was a big deal on my playlists about 15 years ago, and today I actually heard the song you mentioned on radio. I always classify metallica as a heavy metal pop until I hear them again. Thanks for reminding me.

Lups jr had a birthday and got as requested a riding camp ("not some pussy ass city girls brushing ponies, I want to go in the nature trails.") and tickets to an iron maiden concert in the summer.

"mom, it is important to have quality time with your parents and I doubt you'd take me with you to see Mokoma with your army buddies. This is what we children call a compromise"

Hubby commented.
"you're so normal Anna. "

I am indeed.