[FC4]

Did people forget that you need to pay extra to have leather seats in the M3/4?

[Red Bread]

Some of us would pay more for cloth.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Some of us would pay more for cloth.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Well Ferrari, Koenigsegg, Pagani, Mclaren, etc better get the memo or their cars will only go up in a white smoke!

Sounds like you did have good tires for your V. 4200 lbs losing traction on a drag strip on a 3-4 shift sounds....fishy......

those cars actually come with tires. the tires they put on some of these car these days are just stupid.

like the hellcat coming with 275 rears...... or AMG C63 255 rears.

ever check the wheel/tire specs on those cars (the ones you listed )? my god

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by Ezio

those cars actually come with tires. the tires they put on some of these car these days are just stupid.

like the hellcat coming with 275 rears...... or AMG C63 255 rears.

ever check the wheel/tire specs on those cars (the ones you listed )? my god

I know what kind of massive tires those cars have. Especially with Koenigsegg having its tires make just for its car, same for Bugatti. Those are super cars/hyper cars and people who spend 7 figures aren't going to flinch at buying $10k+ for 4 tires.

There are going to be times when companies put small tires on their high HP cars, whether they are FWD, RWD or AWD, and it will make you go hmmm....

Want to know what people enjoy their cars? Go to the track and see who's actually "connected" with their car or a true drivers car? People in RWD cars.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

I know what kind of massive tires those cars have. Especially with Koenigsegg having its tires make just for its car, same for Bugatti. Those are super cars/hyper cars and people who spend 7 figures aren't going to flinch at buying $10k+ for 4 tires.

There are going to be times when companies put small tires on their high HP cars, whether they are FWD, RWD or AWD, and it will make you go hmmm....

Want to know what people enjoy their cars? Go to the track and see who's actually "connected" with their car or a true drivers car? People in RWD cars.

I drive a RWD car, so i do agree with the feel of RWD is something to talk about. but at the same time i can see the appeal of people wanting AWD, specially when cars are getting so much power, with so many unskilled people buying them.

[Vigilante375]

All the nanny's in the world or AWD won't help when you believe that all of that will stop you from crashing.

[quagmire]

I still find it funny how when M's and AMG's were RWD no one cared if AWD was offered. Now that AMG's gained AWD as an option the next M5 is rumored to be offered in AWD, now any other vehicles is junk/trash/DOA if it is RWD only.....

Fanboys.....

[thebishman]

The business plan for Cadillac is just FUBAR'd. Their pricing is way out of line for the product. Seriously, $85K for an Escalade? $70-$80k for an ATS-V? Is GM trying to put Cadillac out of business or are they drinking the koolaid-aid of the current Cadillac CEO, who has completely miscalculated the market for the brand?