Nissan GT-R uncovered. We need Procede v3 now!!

Vegas_Sirk · 10-24-2007, 06:18 PM

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Sedan_Clan · 10-24-2007, 06:26 PM

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And S4's and RS4's are sales successes? Not even close. The RS4 is an achievement because it was the first time we'd seen people paying such a premium for an Audi. Even A8 sales are weak compared to the other big 3 even though most regard them as the best of the breed. Audi is an established upper echelon brand as far as selling $50k plus cars is concerned, and for them to struggle selling cars at that price in this country really makes you wonder how hard it will be for nissan to sell cars at that price in this country. Look at the NSX, granted it was underpowered, but it was an excellent drivers car. Look at the Phaeton. You can even say the current gen Acura RL. The average well off american consumer isn't going to pay a premium price for something that isn't a premium label. I've seen your posts, M3This and you're a really anti-badge whore guy. And I appreciate that on this forum because i'm the same way and its good to see more of us in the bmw community. However, I'm not going to be unrealistic enough to think that this car will be the success in THIS country that it will be everywhere else. Yes, I completely said what you said that the GTR is an icon for "any track junky or anyone that grew up playing the 4 versions of GT." My entire point was that track junkies make up such an insignificant portion of car buyers. If Nissan is hoping that the GTR will be successful based off track junkies and people who played gran turismo, we have a problem. If Nissan claims to be aiming to sell 200 a month, I seriously hope they're lowballing this number. Compared to Honda and Toyota, Nissan isn't exactly on fire right now. Wasn't it just april that they were in the news for their profit going down for the first time in 7 years? The Skyline GTR could have really been used to strengthen the brand. 200 per month is exotic territory. I'll believe you, as I haven't looked for myself, but handmade? That was generally reserved for Z-Tune R34s wasn't it? I just dont see the financial gains for nissan to handbuild 200 GTRs per month for this country. It's so... unjapanese.

ArmyBimmerDude summarized my point dead on. If the Z06 is any indicator of how an amazing performance car far more capable than its overpriced competition can play second, third, and fourth fiddle to everything from m3s to 911s in its home country, it makes me very skeptical of how well the skyline will do in a country that generally never put performance first and picks by brand prestige. If they're really just trying to sell 200 a month, it won't be a problem, at all. But if they're seriously trying to COMPETE with the 911 and the Z06 and the M3 and the others in that category, 200 cars a month. Weren't 911 North American sales last year around 12000 or so?

Sales figures aside, I think my entire point is that as a car, it's a huge success. Yes, they will have no problem selling 200 a month. But as far as making a big impact on the sports car world in this country, it's not going to happen.

Very well put!

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Vegas_Sirk · 10-24-2007, 07:06 PM

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TheAcAvenger · 10-24-2007, 07:07 PM

When are they going to bring us the R34 Blue!

A418t81 · 10-24-2007, 07:30 PM

The GTR will not be available, ever, with a 6MT according to the latest from Nissan

Sedan_Clan · 10-24-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

When are they going to bring us the R34 Blue!

Now THAT is what I'd truly be interested in. I <3 the R33/R34 Vspec!

Los Angeles · 10-24-2007, 10:24 PM

The red and black GT-Rs look GREAT!

lyndon_h · 10-25-2007, 12:29 AM

I love it!

ssjLancer · 10-25-2007, 04:59 PM

The R35 might be a surpise success.
The Z06 is a monster on the track but every car magazine always has it placing 3rd-4th in car comparos cause it lacks.. well.. overall driveability.
Nissan on the other hand used the 997 Turbo as their car to base the R35's performance.
Did they succeed? we'll have to see. If they did, at 80k it could be trouble for the other companies.

80k... thats only like what.. 2 Evo's? it doesnt cost THAT much.... Im half joking but seriously its not that out of reach compared to the 110k cars its being classed with.

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