[BayMoWe335]

I waited too long and missed them all...anyone see anymore recently from a reputable seller? Don't want to do eBay...

[kevinbahnz]

register at gamestop or amazon, they will email you when it comes back on preorder. i think it happened once or twice but by now i dont think there will be anymore.

[F1Venom]

I hope it comes bundled with GTA V.

[Endless619]

Originally Posted by BayMoWe335

I waited too long and missed them all...anyone see anymore recently from a reputable seller? Don't want to do eBay...

With the almost $500 price tag most Americans cannot and will not afford it so look around. There are Xbox 1 and PS4s still available in some states at Best Buy and Walmart will have the usual walk-in on 21NOV.

Good luck.

[Joekerr]

What is it that makes people want a PS4? I'm saying this not from a Microsoft fanboi direction as I don't have xbox, rather, I'm a PS3 guy myself.

I just haven't heard anything really great about the PS4 that really makes me want to go out there and get one. Maybe later, after a year, just nothing makes me really want to be the first.

So what was it that attracts people to it?

[Billup]

I haven't heard much good from either, to be honest. I'm going to let everyone else be the guinea pigs and wait to see what problems arise with each, IRL.

[Whostheboss]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

What is it that makes people want a PS4? I'm saying this not from a Microsoft fanboi direction as I don't have xbox, rather, I'm a PS3 guy myself.

I just haven't heard anything really great about the PS4 that really makes me want to go out there and get one. Maybe later, after a year, just nothing makes me really want to be the first.

So what was it that attracts people to it?

I feel the exact same way. There's nothing WOW! or SPECTACULAR! or GREAT! about the PS4.
Most PS4 games aren't even running at 60FPS, all the games I've seen thus far look very boring. You now have to pay to be able play multi-player.

I'm not a fanboy, i judge fair. I like all systems equally. I own a PS3, X360 and Wii.
The next gen consoles (PS4, XONE, WiiU) have a much different playing field than their predecessors had, which is the evolution of mobile games.
It's taught Sony, MS and Nintendo a lesson that mediocre hardware can still profit a lot of money.
This is one of the reasons PS4 and XONE aren't a big jump from PS3 and X360, as to what the jump was on PS3/X360 from PS2/original Xbox.

Another reason being cost to manufacture, this time around Sony is trying to play safe and not build an extreme gaming machine that will cost too much.
Same can be said about MS (honestly the PS4 and XONE are the same price, XONE just costs more because MS gives you more accessories... The stupid Kinect)

Both PS4/XONE are running on fairly moderate microprocessors ( a main processor and graphics processor slapped into and APU) to reduce manufacturing cost.

Oh well, i may get one eventually. But i'm not crazy about it. Nothing about the PS4 has wow'ed me. I even like the XONE a little better.

[dreamingat30fps]

Maybe it's just me, but I have noticed games get much better the longer a console is out. Maybe in time the developers learn the intricacies of each console and are better able to optimize for it. Anyways I have a 360 now and will probably get an Xbox One at some point but holding off for now.

[Whostheboss]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Maybe it's just me, but I have noticed games get much better the longer a console is out. Maybe in time the developers learn the intricacies of each console and are better able to optimize for it. Anyways I have a 360 now and will probably get an Xbox One at some point but holding off for now.

That's 100% true. It takes developers some time to learn new hardware or architecture ... But the PS4 and XONE have an x86 microprocessor. x86 architecture has been out for over 100 years (i'm being funny) But seriously its been out since the late '70s, the 64bit version has been out for over a decade now).
That's the reason Sony and MS picked an x86 instead of the traditional IBM PowerPC that is difficult to program.

High definition gaming has been out since 2005/2006... Honestly there's NOTHING new or difficult about programming PS4/XONE...

There is absolutely no reason for PS4/XONE games to run below 60FPS on 1080P.
The first games on PS4/XONE should look about the same as the Latest games on the outgoing PS3/X360.