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GM really needs to go under. It will be a great day for america when it does. That piece of crap company produces absolute junk, rebrands and reskins everything to try and refresh their junk, and pretty much banks on american-car nationalism to sell its products. If GM would ever go down, then there may be room for a new car company to emerge that actually puts thoughtful engineering into their products. In the end, this country will reap what we put in, and if we keep having the government bail out and baby these big corporations, then obviously they will continue to be babies... Its like the British car industry, look what happened to them, after all the government subsidies and support, they all went to hell, and are now owned by foreign companies.
Any company that banks its whole bussiness on an SUV boom diserves to go under, way under ! |
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And that's just the tip of the iceberg...
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11-26-2005, 08:46 PM | #30 | |
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I watch Autoline Detroit on SpeedTV Sunday mornings at 9am. They cover all things Detroit. I recently saw an interview with a top GM salesman who finally quit in frustration and started a consulting company. His selling ideas are similar to LedZep's BMW salesperson. Total service and accessibility. He tried to get his ideas to the upper echelons, but was ignored. And the whole RWD revolution that Chrysler is doing so well with is also being ignored more or less by GM. And the hybrid revolution (like it or not) that Ford is working is being ignored by GM also (correct me if I'm wrong here).
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GM made us abandon them. A couple more years and they might lose their identity... a terrible thing gets worse
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They have the ability to do it, for there are pockets of vitality within GM. The Cadillac division redesigned its lines and achieved big sales gains. GM is the market leader in China (indeed, in 2005 its total foreign sales will surpass U.S. sales for the first time). But, those success could be fatal, and may even dull "the urge for competitive survival," which is "the strongest of all economic incentives." Companies might fail "to recognize advancing technology or altered consumer needs." Avoiding these traps is GM's challenge. With even talks that GM could go bankrupt, although that isn't inevitable, even the talk measures how poorly GM met the challenge. unquote.
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Three years ago I was drawn into a GM showroom by a newspaper ad; I found out that 4 year, 0% financing actually cost $5,000.
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Well, in addition to making cars that people don't want to buy, another big problem for GM is keeping workers in American factories.
This is all just an assumption, but isn't it true that the biggest problem with GM right now is they aren't able to pay for soaring health care costs for their workers? Don't quote me on this, but isn't it also true that other car companies build factories in third world countries so they don't have to pay minimum wage and health benefits? Well, if this is true, then I admire GM for trying to keep the jobs in America for as long as possible, but (and if this is true) it just goes to show how screwed up our world is becomming. People can't buy a $30,000 Chevy if they're aren't any jobs. But then again, the other side of the argument is these are the kinds of jobs that Americans don't want. Regardless, you guys are right. GM is junk and if the health care for workers isn't their primary problem, it is definitely quality. American cars are the low-balls of the auto world, and now they are nothing more than a joke. I've seen people who bought Chevys all their lives starting to turn to Toyota or Honda. This would have been unheard of in the early 1980s. GM really has to downsize and put a little more quality into their products. Toyota pushes out HUGE amounts of cars and they are still built VERY well. But I'm afraid it may be too late for GM's name. I have it in my head that GM is garbage, even if they ever become more safe and better built than Toyota/BMW/ect. |
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12-06-2005, 04:18 AM | #37 |
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No one abandoned GM they abandoned us. Kept trying to shove inferior products down consumer's throat with low prices except they didn't take into account of their costs. If caddy line builds bmw and chevy builds toyota they wouldn't be in this situation now. They are turning things around with vettes and solistic and I hope they succeed. Be great to own a good American than an import but for now I won't buy a GM. Unless its a vette
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