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      04-05-2007, 05:46 AM   #1
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Mercedes-Benz CLK63 Black Series

Seems like E92 M3 will have a hard time catching up with this new beast from MB!

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http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=5092



2008 BMW M3
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=4998



My guess is that 2010 M3 will have at least 500 bhp!
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      04-05-2007, 05:55 AM   #2
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I wonder if you can turnth etraction off this time?!

You couldn't on the last 'black' version they did, which made it kind of pointless for a track based car.
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      04-05-2007, 06:22 AM   #3
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To me this thing is not worth $160k
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So, you're comparing a 6.3 l engine and $120+k price tag to the 4.0 l M3 for $60k???
I don't even think they are in close territory.

If the Bimmer wanted to beat this one, they would have put in a 6.0l engine, and come out with 750 HP, and blow the doors off it...but that is not on their mind...
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So, you're comparing a 6.3 l engine and $120+k price tag to the 4.0 l M3 for $60k???
I don't even think they are in close territory.

If the Bimmer wanted to beat this one, they would have put in a 6.0l engine, and come out with 750 HP, and blow the doors off it...but that is not on their mind...
+1....and I'm really feeling that the MB will be blowing the doors off the M3. I'm guessing it might be only slightly faster. I bet slightly tuned, the M3 will be right up there with it. Seems liek a hefty price tag for what you are getting, but then if you're a big MB fan, have at it!
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      04-05-2007, 07:51 AM   #6
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MB CLK63 is compared to BMW M6 not M3
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I would take the the new M3 over that Benz everytime, the CLS63 AMG is a nice car, but it isn't an M3, and from reading the reports of teh last 'black' Benz no one seemd to think it worked.
A C63 Black would be the better choice, and that will probably launch teh same time as the new CSL!
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      04-05-2007, 08:10 AM   #8
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I would take this CLK63 AMG over 08 M3 anyday!! and then I will sell it and buy 2 08 M3s one in black and the other one in... hmmm havn't decided yet..
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When it comes to raw power, I dont think BMW will ever match Benz
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      04-05-2007, 08:25 AM   #10
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It looks pretty good but I wouldn't buy a MB CLK63 for that amount of money..160k? I'll take an M5 and a M3
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That thing is a monster, but like berm said you have to compare it to the M6. I'm sure if BMW wanted to make a race-spec M6 it would be a lot closer. Either way, this thing is an animal and must sound like a monster with that 6.3L motor
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160k? The last clk55 AMG was about 80'somethin I think....
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is the CLK "Black" series supposed to be like "CSL" ? Is it more of a pure track car?
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Doesn't Chrysler make these now?

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that front end looks terrible
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      04-05-2007, 01:22 PM   #17
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Like people have been saying...i'd rather have the less powerful M3 and pocket the change in difference.

Mercedes has always been going down the route of big displacement V8 and V12s with some of their AMG motors being supercharged. BMW has usually stuck to smaller displacement naturally aspirated motors (until recently).

Hell...if we're taking about that kind of money, isn't that near Porsche Turbo money? Maybe I'd get that instead.
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im sorry... i like it... i think MB makes good use of that lower bumper / \ shape... the m3 doesnt do a good job of that tho...

in addition MB also has a more boxy, sportier look unlike the previous generations with very rounded corners.

for example.. the e90's front bumper compliments the V'ness of the hood and likewise the bumper does a little \__/...

and based on price... i dont think the clk63 should be squared off against the m3...
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When it comes to raw power, I dont think BMW will ever match Benz
when it comes to raw power benz will never match porsche
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When it comes to raw power, I dont think BMW will ever match Benz
Yeah, BMW won't ever match their auto tech either
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amg black edition = m3 gtr?
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MB CLK63 is compared to BMW M6 not M3
CLK63 = M3
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