Mercedes Considering Bringing Back V8 to C63

alex2364 · 08-04-2023, 10:10 AM

Good news for C63 fans. It looks like Mercedes is listening to their customers and critics, and is reconsidering the V8 for the C63.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...e63-v8-return/

ASAP · 08-04-2023, 10:21 AM

i still have yet to hear or see a C63 around w the new 4 banger... its almost like the car isn't really released of MB backed out when they realized how terrible of a customer response the car had

gblansten · 08-04-2023, 10:49 AM

Car is just so heavy and, reportedly, has lots of lag issue with throttle and doesn't handle well. Just a S### S###.

Bumpinjeep · 08-04-2023, 02:01 PM

I can't imagine paying $100K for a 4 cylinder C63 only for a V8 to come out a year or two after you get it. That depreciation curve is like a cliff at that point.

alex2364 · 08-04-2023, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I can't imagine paying $100K for a 4 cylinder C63 only for a V8 to come out a year or two after you get it. That depreciation curve is like a cliff at that point.

It's similar to what Porsche did with the 718 GTS. It had the 4 cylinder turbo a few years before changing it back to the NA 6 cylinder. At least they listen to their customers and don't turn a blind eye like BMW.

KillerExcessive · 08-04-2023, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

i still have yet to hear or see a C63 around w the new 4 banger... its almost like the car isn't really released of MB backed out when they realized how terrible of a customer response the car had

"Damning" is putting TH's review mildly:

gblansten · 08-04-2023, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerExcessive

"Damning" is putting TH's review mildly:

Saw that when it came out. Damning but fair.

wtwo3 · 08-04-2023, 04:23 PM

My question is... with the C63 just now hitting showrooms... has Mercedes tanked sales of it with this announcement for the next 2-3 years? Can't imagine anyone bothering with this iteration of the C63 knowing a V8 is coming. Maybe dealers will offer huge discounts on them?

M5Rick · 08-04-2023, 04:51 PM

That's what I'm thinking, the four bangers will be discounted substantially prior to V8 being available.

M3WC · 08-04-2023, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

i still have yet to hear or see a C63 around w the new 4 banger... its almost like the car isn't really released of MB backed out when they realized how terrible of a customer response the car had

Because they have not reached US market. Supposedly US dealers started accepting orders early last month.

KillerExcessive · 08-04-2023, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

My question is... with the C63 just now hitting showrooms... has Mercedes tanked sales of it with this announcement for the next 2-3 years? Can't imagine anyone bothering with this iteration of the C63 knowing a V8 is coming. Maybe dealers will offer huge discounts on them?

Yeah, it's somewhat strange for management to basically undermine the new product before it's even in stores.

Maybe the data is indicating a big enough problem that they feel compelled to act/speak, rather than wait and see how it performs on the market.

I know I wouldn't have touched it with a 10-foot pole, but I have accepted a while ago that my tastes no longer represent the buyer demographics these days. So, who knows.

gonzo · 08-04-2023, 07:40 PM

I "believe" the new S Class sales have hit a wall.
The new SL isn't getting a very warm reception.
Those ugly as sin e things are stacked up like firewood.

Seems their latest meetings might be in a different conference room with different people.

ASAP · 08-04-2023, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

My question is... with the C63 just now hitting showrooms... has Mercedes tanked sales of it with this announcement for the next 2-3 years? Can't imagine anyone bothering with this iteration of the C63 knowing a V8 is coming. Maybe dealers will offer huge discounts on them?

I think they missed the boat on the car in general... even the 4 banger... there was some hype at the beginning, then it died off and then the car got awful reviews... i wouldnt bring the 4 banger to the USA anymore... no one will buy it

ASAP · 08-04-2023, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

I "believe" the new S Class sales have hit a wall.
The new SL isn't getting a very warm reception.
Those ugly as sin e things are stacked up like firewood.

Seems their latest meetings might in a different conference room with different people.

I wonder why... those cars are driving ipads... its not luxury, its a dumb overload of unreliable tech... these cars will have the resale value of TVs

Tyga11 · 08-04-2023, 10:48 PM

I assume this will start around $120K since the 4 cylinder is starting around $100K as mentioned.

With options - you're looking at $135K easy.

The car market is becoming a joke and not worth it.

MJBO · 08-04-2023, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerExcessive

Yeah, it's somewhat strange for management to basically undermine the new product before it's even in stores.

That article quotes “two independent sources” and “senior engineers directly involved in the matter”, all unnamed. I haven’t read anything being confirmed by management.

Burrcold · 08-04-2023, 11:00 PM

Won't happen.

gonzo · 08-04-2023, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

I wonder why... those cars are driving ipads... its not luxury, its a dumb overload of unreliable tech... these cars will have the resale value of TVs

When I saw that the imax dash would be in the M2 my heart sank. Got over it and moved on. The tech has ruined so many iconic cars, it's sad. To each their own though. The boardrooms are in charge but swim or sink is definitely in play.

Hopefully the pre-owned market will become a smorgasbord of yummy choices that were given up to go tech/ev.

The SL was once a handsome choice. This one reminds me of a tic tac. Yes, I'm not thrilled with the styling these days. Definitely exceptions however.
5 BMW's over time but I highly doubt I get the 6th. Funky stuff.

G30M · 08-05-2023, 12:38 AM

V8 FTW!

who knows, they might even renegade on their resolve to sell only EVs by 2030

M5Rick · 08-05-2023, 02:46 AM

At 11.52 in the vid it confirms what I was expecting, harsh suspension something that my previous W204 Sport suffered on uneven roads.
The 'eco ball' on the 4 banger is an absolute joke.

RichF90M5C · 08-05-2023, 03:01 AM

Mercedes is “considering” bringing it back. The accountants won’t let them.

G30M · 08-05-2023, 06:28 AM

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Mercedes is “considering” bringing it back. The accountants won’t let them.

the accountants will beg them to. you know, when they sell no cars.

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