New Cayman or Used 911

fredtoo · 02-02-2006, 09:42 AM

I am toying with the idea of a Porsche. Any experience here with these cars?

shimshimhada · 02-02-2006, 09:57 AM

What kind of 911 are you interested in?

ward · 02-02-2006, 10:19 AM

the cayman will outhandle any 911, and it's straight line performance is the equal to the 993 (last air cooled 911)

I just saw road and track got a cayman to 60 in 4.8 secs

shimshimhada · 02-02-2006, 10:21 AM

Ward, why don't you just sell both your cars and pick up a Cayman S, since you love it so much.

fredtoo · 02-02-2006, 10:40 AM

I would be able to get into the base model Carrera. I was thinking that I could pick up a CPO 911 for about Cayman money.

The car would be a daily driver, as my commute is about 8 miles in each direction.

I need the ability to carry small boxes of stuff one in a while, for larger jobs, I have a truck to carry parts around in.

How does Porsche stack up compared to the other brands in regard to Reliability?

shimshimhada · 02-02-2006, 11:37 AM

I don't think the regular Cayman is out yet.

Enroutte · 02-02-2006, 01:05 PM

I'd get the 911. I think the cayman just has an old man look. Even on the new models, the way it's designed looks old and outdated. IMO. I like the newer 911 way better.

My uncle has a Boxster S, good midlife crisis car. ;D

vladinecko · 02-02-2006, 01:20 PM

actually, i think cayman looks kind of like a downsized 911. i saw it in person at the detroit auto show and didn't like it at all. but they kind of look alike anyways. 911 is, of course, a lot more expensive, so i think it just comes down to how much money you want to spend.

i'm pretty sure both cars handle completely different so a little test drive would also tell you a lot which feels better to your liking.

[pic. 1 - 911 carrera]
[pic. 2 - cayman]

Robbie! · 02-02-2006, 01:37 PM

911 is way cooler than the cayman plus it has a backseat for kiddies (if applicable)

SCA · 02-02-2006, 01:41 PM

I'm a big fan of the 997 (911). I'd love to own one someday.

BTW, Porsche is probably the only manufacturer that I would leave BMW for.

EVO_S4 · 02-03-2006, 03:51 PM

i get a Cayman, unless its a 911 Turbo

shimshimhada · 02-03-2006, 04:05 PM

One thing that really grinds my gears are the non-functional side gills. The Boxster/Cayman would look so much cleaner without those.

ward · 02-03-2006, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

Ward, why don't you just sell both your cars and pick up a Cayman S, since you love it so much.

I would, but one is a work car I PILE miles on like crazy (and I need to look a bit professional in, while not looking like I make too much $$$) the other is for evenings and weekends.

I was actually considering marrying the Cayman S since I love it so much

ward · 02-03-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

One thing that really grinds my gears are the non-functional side gills. The Boxster/Cayman would look so much cleaner without those.

NON FUNCTIONAL????

one is the air intake for the engine (it's in the middle we all know)
the other is just to vent the engine bay,

they're very much functional

maq · 02-06-2006, 03:46 PM

I looked into buying a Cayman S, and here's my conclusion.

1. You don't buy a Cayman S because it's like a 911. You buy it because it's not.

2. You don't buy a Cayman S as something you pimp in on a daily basis. You buy it as a pure driving device that you take to the track on weekends.

The Cayman's MSRP is fine, the problem is the option list. Porsche totally screwed up on that. I optioned out a Cayman S with basic cosmetic stuff that you used to get in every Porsche for free, and it reached $70k. I didn't even touch the ceramic brakes, PASM and Sat Nav.

IMO, the best way to buy a Cayman S is to buy a stripped-down one with no options at all. You get more for less this way. Because you are not buying a daily driver anymore, you don't need the luxury anymore. And for that reason, a $59k Cayman S is no less than a $80k one (probably even better, thanks to the weight saving). And at below $60k, it's a better drive than any 911 of any generation.

If you just happen to have $80k to blow on a P-car, don't, for god's sake, waste it on the POS 997 with the bored out Boxster M97 engine. Get yourself a proper 911 - a 996 GT3 with the M64.

shimshimhada · 02-06-2006, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ward

NON FUNCTIONAL????

one is the air intake for the engine (it's in the middle we all know)
the other is just to vent the engine bay,

they're very much functional

Yeah, I was going to edit that post.

I just checked my dad's 987 S, and initially I thought that because of the unnecessary (not sure? Some people on Renntech removed it) plastic thing on the side vents. There's a hole there though, so I guess it is functional.

Ed_330i · 02-06-2006, 05:06 PM

cayman definity, unless a 911 turbo

scottz5 · 02-06-2006, 05:54 PM

Red or White Cayman all the way!

ward · 02-06-2006, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottz5

Red or White Cayman all the way!

well looks to me like somebody's too cheap for the $800 metallic or the $3000 special metallic (sarcasm smile!)

friggin porsche charges for everything

yeah do you want the black, $800 black or $3000 dark gray????

CardinalZeus77 · 02-06-2006, 06:19 PM

Hi,

Here is a link to a review of the Cayman S by a UK program called Top Gear. It might help in your decision?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...165&q=top+gear

Personally I prefer the 911.

shimshimhada · 02-06-2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman999

Hi,

Here is a link to a review of the Cayman S by a UK program called Top Gear. It might help in your decision?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...165&q=top+gear

Personally I prefer the 911.

Top Gear has international recognition now, I've seen that episode, I agree with Jezza somewhat. MR > RR, I'll say it again: MR > RR.

fredtoo · 02-06-2006, 06:30 PM

I'm done with Black for a while.

A white car is too Japanese for me.

I already have a red car, I don't need two of them

It will be a silver one.

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ward Major General 163 Rep 6,158 Posts Drives: F Join Date: May 2005 Location: T iTrader: (0)	the cayman will outhandle any 911, and it's straight line performance is the equal to the 993 (last air cooled 911) I just saw road and track got a cayman to 60 in 4.8 secs
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fredtoo First Lieutenant 16 Rep 340 Posts Drives: 325 328 350 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: nj iTrader: (0) Garage List 1986 328 [0.00] 2006 325 [0.00]	I would be able to get into the base model Carrera. I was thinking that I could pick up a CPO 911 for about Cayman money. The car would be a daily driver, as my commute is about 8 miles in each direction. I need the ability to carry small boxes of stuff one in a while, for larger jobs, I have a truck to carry parts around in. How does Porsche stack up compared to the other brands in regard to Reliability?
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Enroutte Private First Class 172 Rep 160 Posts Drives: ;D Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Undecided. iTrader: (0)	I'd get the 911. I think the cayman just has an old man look. Even on the new models, the way it's designed looks old and outdated. IMO. I like the newer 911 way better. My uncle has a Boxster S, good midlife crisis car. ;D
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shimshimhada Brigadier General 495 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	One thing that really grinds my gears are the non-functional side gills. The Boxster/Cayman would look so much cleaner without those.
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maq Lieutenant 12 Rep 469 Posts Drives: MTA Monthly Pass Join Date: May 2005 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	I looked into buying a Cayman S, and here's my conclusion. 1. You don't buy a Cayman S because it's like a 911. You buy it because it's not. 2. You don't buy a Cayman S as something you pimp in on a daily basis. You buy it as a pure driving device that you take to the track on weekends. The Cayman's MSRP is fine, the problem is the option list. Porsche totally screwed up on that. I optioned out a Cayman S with basic cosmetic stuff that you used to get in every Porsche for free, and it reached $70k. I didn't even touch the ceramic brakes, PASM and Sat Nav. IMO, the best way to buy a Cayman S is to buy a stripped-down one with no options at all. You get more for less this way. Because you are not buying a daily driver anymore, you don't need the luxury anymore. And for that reason, a $59k Cayman S is no less than a $80k one (probably even better, thanks to the weight saving). And at below $60k, it's a better drive than any 911 of any generation. If you just happen to have $80k to blow on a P-car, don't, for god's sake, waste it on the POS 997 with the bored out Boxster M97 engine. Get yourself a proper 911 - a 996 GT3 with the M64.
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