[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Oh man, I hate to hear that!!! You had VIP passes and everything didn't you?

Best wishes for surgery and SPEEDY recovery!!!

Yes. No worries and thanks for the good wishes!!!

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . And I heard that the Merc's rear-squat suspension is controlled by GPS .

Where did you hear this?

[Richneerd]

INTRO!!!!!!!!!

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

Where did you hear this?

He didn't it's more conspiracy.

[Killed by Death]

The crowd

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

The crowd

IKR!

This is a strange sight in f1...

Man I love being able to watch quali live.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

Where did you hear this?

From my Japanese colleague engineers .
That's why it isn't working in the high speed turns , and only in the high speed straights when reaching a certain high speed

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

From my Japanese colleague engineers .
That's why it isn't working in the high speed turns , and only in the high speed straights when reaching a certain high speed

Lol sounds more like a conspiracy theorist rather than an engineer.

The damper valve is designed not to open and bottom out in any corner otherwise you loose down force. It only opens on straights where the speed is high enough (these speeds don't occur in the corners and thus the down force required to open the valve isn't there) to generate the down force required to open the valve. This is why this "simple" design isn't as simple as it sounds.

Don't forget down force is proportional to speed.



My "engineer" friend told me the RB16B's flexi wing was also gps controlled, which is why it was banned.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by F87source

IKR!

This is a strange sight in f1...

Man I love being able to watch quali live.

HOPEFULLY Canada will be back next year!

This is why the US needs 2 GPs. Never been to Austin but LOVE Miami South Beach. Oh the choices

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

HOPEFULLY Canada will be back next year!

This is why the US needs 2 GPs. Never been to Austin but LOVE Miami South Beach. Oh the choices

PLEASE BE BACK I WANT TO GOOOO. lol

Bro the more races in Canada and the US the better. Generally the more races in north america the better so I can watch them at a decent time.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

He didn't it's more conspiracy.

HAM preacher ?

Yeah ...Just like the Merc's DAS , Party-Mode , Warp-Speed , the sensors and the air-cooling system in the plenum , intercooler upgrade , and the rear squat suspension .

Wait ...I forgot the Merc's 'fexible front wing !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

From my Japanese colleague engineers .
That's why it isn't working in the high speed turns , and only in the high speed straights when reaching a certain high speed

So far that 'antidote' is working well on the 16B.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

HAM preacher ?

Yeah ...Just like the Merc's DAS , Party-Mode , Warp-Speed , the sensors and the air-cooling system in the plenum , intercooler upgrade , and the rear squat suspension .

Wait ...I forgot the Merc's 'fexible front wing !

Nope, I just love the engineering. But we can see your love for max is blinding your judgement.


All legal, you keep bringing it up but it is all legal - and created by engineers that are extremely clever.

[Killed by Death]

but oh geez, the shoey has gone viral in the US after RIC interview on Monday Night Football.

Idiots haven't figured out it's only for a win

Just saw some redneck doing a shoey hit with a Coke

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Lol sounds more like a conspiracy theorist rather than an engineer.

The damper valve is designed not to open and bottom out in any corner otherwise you loose down force. It only opens on straights where the speed is high enough (these speeds don't occur in the corners and thus the down force required to open the valve isn't there) to generate the down force required to open the valve. This is why this "simple" design isn't as simple as it sounds.

Don't forget down force is proportional to speed.



My "engineer" friend told me the RB16B's flexi wing was also gps controlled, which is why it was banned.

That's really funny !
There are also high speed turns , where they reach 300 + km/h !
And your valve will not be activated ..
If your valve would be activated in a 300 km/h turn . Your Merc would meet a wall in no time !

The rear squat suspension is programmed in the track configuration and controlled via GPS .
The system is accurate at +/- 1 meter .

It's impossible to make it work in the Red Bull by the RB16's high-rake .
The Wolf won't tell you that !

#FIAMercedes !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That's really funny !
There are also high speed turns , where they reach 300 + km/h !
And your valve will not be activated ..
If your valve would be activated in a 300 km/h turn . Your Merc would meet a wall in no time !

The rear squat suspension is programmed in the track configuration and controlled via GPS .
The system is accurate at +/- 1 meter .

It's impossible to make it work in the Red Bull by the RB16's high-rake .
The Wolf won't tell you that !

#FIAMercedes !

Think someones got their valves in a twist my friend heheh

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

So far that 'antidote' is working well on the 16B.

Adrian Newey is back and HONDA turned the PU open !

Adrian worked really hard on the new floor , even when he was out by his accident .


AND .....

""MAX IS POLE" !!! P1

[GuidoK]

Wow that was some tense qualifying

[Blindside_137]

That was fun.

Quite the crowd volume difference when the Red Bull takes pole vs HAM

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Adrian Newey is back and HONDA turned the PU open !

Adrian worked really hard on the new floor , even when he was out by his accident .

By gum Max goes into the 32's to seal pole, guess Ham's shocker valve wasn't all it was cracked up to be and Checo just couldn't make it a 1-2 but I'm happy with that.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Nope, I just love the engineering. But we can see your love for max is blinding your judgement.


All legal, you keep bringing it up but it is all legal - and created by engineers that are extremely clever.

Whatever Mercedes is ...Let's say "INVENTING"

It's all legal for the FIA anyway ...

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That's really funny !
There are also high speed turns , where they reach 300 + km/h !
And your valve will not be activated ..
If your valve would be activated in a 300 km/h turn . Your Merc would meet a wall in no time !

The rear squat suspension is programmed in the track configuration and controlled via GPS .
The system is accurate at +/- 1 meter .

It's impossible to make it work in the Red Bull by the RB16's high-rake .
The Wolf won't tell you that !

#FIAMercedes !

While you stay in your fantasy world I choose to look at logic.


Remember different wing configurations will change the level of downforce generated and how much load the rear suspension will see. Generally when you see 300 kph speeds you aren't running the highest wing level because the drag is too high. Therefore a smaller wing means a smaller load and thus 300 kph will not generate enough load to bottom out the suspension, however on the straights where speeds are higher than in the corners you can generate even more down force to meet the loads required to squat the car. This can also be tuned by tuning the damper so when you run a smaller wing less force is needed to cause squatting.

Also your logic would imply that flexi wings don't work unless they're GPS controlled because they'll flex in high speed corners - but they don't because they're precisely tuned for the speed and load they will encounter specifically on the straights. Smaller wings will need to be able to flex easier than larger wings because they don't generate the same amount of down force for instance.

Another counter point is that it took the mercedes in the video alot more than 1m of running on the straights before it squatted, if it was gps controlled it should have squatted earlier to have even faster acceleration. But it didn't, so easily with critical thinking I am able to adequately debunk your myth of mercedes having gps controlled suspension.



Again maybe you should indeed stick to fantasy because the egineering seems to complicated for you to handle.




BTW: rake doesn't matter for the squatting suspension, its whole design is to eliminate rake angle on the straights to stall the diffuser and thus reduce drag, then on the slower speed cornering sections reimplement the rake angle to get more volume under the duffuser for more down force generation. This design allowed mercedes to jack up the rear of the w12 (and if you add high rake to a long wheel base car you get immense amounts of drag along but this clever suspension trick eliminates it) and allow it to still retain fast straight line speeds. Redbull could have this in their rb16b if they wanted to and it wouldn't upset the car because it wouldn't be used where downforce generation is required, however it isn't easy to do so it might take too much engineering investment on behalf of redbull to get this done this season.