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C7s Z06s are trash and the ZL1 is ehhhh fair.... when modified. You'd likely look awesome in a Toyota Matrix though. Back to the Red-headed step child remark on the x5m/x6m.... Frankly red heads tend to be a little more exciting if I do say so myself. I mean based on your logic this shouldn't have happened.... regardless of mods. How bout this! Try to quit fitting in with your standardized buildsheet requirements to compliment your rather dull palet. There's nothing more exciting than having a vehicle that is completely obnoxious and over the top and completely impractical for daily commuting needs! That's the thrill of all of this at the end of the day in that when someone asks "why did you buy that car" you simply say because I can. |
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04-06-2018, 05:18 PM | #179 |
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Make sure you add a red R from a Civic on the back too - it's worth 5 horsepower, so you'll be faster than those morons in unmodded M2s! (Oh, wait - that's me...)
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![]() Leasing a car is renting a car? Not at all. Unless you paid cash for your automobile, then you don't own it anymore than one who leases. Try missing a few loan payments and let's see how much your really "own" a loan purchased automobile. ![]() Also, I have no idea why you're conflating "exclusivity" of vehicle ownership with leasing. It's quite silly actually. Last edited by RPM90; 04-06-2018 at 06:03 PM.. |
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04-07-2018, 12:29 AM | #181 | |
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Marginally relevant example? Our receptionist and one of firm's secretaries both drive 3's. I know what they make and they'd be homeless if they had to finance those cars. Absolutely NOTHING wrong with that but if you think that makes the cars "Exclusive" (again the topic at hand) YOU are quite silly. |
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04-07-2018, 01:44 PM | #183 |
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well from BMW side, im calling it M-tax.. whatever part you change is more (at least %30-50) expensive than a same non-M model.. i guess it was 1-2 years before BMW launched BMW-M.com other than that actually i havent seen much exclusivity from BMW for owning an M in these years including my previous E46 M3.. i guess it was more special for events in USA but in Europe.. aside all this i want to drive M cars for making myself happy but soon if they keep pulling up the prices of M cars BMW ll lose a lot car guy to AMG cause AMG line is better than BMW's at the moment already.. from chassis to engine.. less or more..
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I think what OP means is "M doesn't feel this special to drive anymore."
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04-10-2018, 10:51 AM | #187 | |
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But mindset of some people who lease are not for the flexibility or tax benefits, but just the affordability part. They have to get that BMW as a way to keep up with the Jones' and that in turn can hurt the exclusivity. From my experience living in So Cal, a bunch of people live this way As a M owner, I don't care, please sell more in whatever way possible so that more Ms are made. |
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04-10-2018, 11:38 AM | #188 |
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Isn't exclusivity governed by something being out of reach financially, or limited supply, or both?
Surely we don't want BMW limiting the supply of M-Cars, or pricing users out of the market. |
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04-10-2018, 11:39 AM | #189 |
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I can say that yes, maybe owning an M car is not rare as was ten years ago, but I can ensure you that, in my case, I'm one of the thirteen owner of an M140i in Italy at the moment, and believe me, is only a 1 series.....but people look at it always in a different way. In my opinion an M performance and an M car will be always something special worth to own, despite a mass diffusion.
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04-10-2018, 11:51 AM | #190 |
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I could care less how "exclusive" it is. BMW just doesn't make anything I want to drive anymore.
I got into M cars for the high revving NA engines with amazing throttle response, rwd with an LSD, nice manual trans, good steering feel, in a reasonably practical body that's reasonably easy to maintain, with a simple cabin layout with high quality materials. Whole lot of nope to all of the above these days. Can't imagine wanting/buying anything they've made in the turbo era, and am happy to be free of my bangle era car.
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This is why I got myself a 335.
Jk, deep down inside I'm envious of all the M's I see and still want one. |
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When car rates are nearing double digits and the economy is not booming, we will get to see how many people are getting M3s.
Money is cheap, leases are cheap, people have jobs, and people are comfortable stretching in this economy - this is going to make car people get cars that can't "truly" afford. BRB - going to rennlist classifieds. |
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Can someone point me to the direction of the intersection of....
How is this thread still alive, and who the fuck cares about exclusivity in a car basically made to only last through the terms of initial lease? Having trouble finding it on the internet GPS! |
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