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      11-20-2021, 02:32 AM   #133
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That's more like it.
Flat bottomed wheel makes no sense what so ever.
It's not like the last 35 years I've been driving I've sat in the car and thought , " you know what , I wish the bottom was flat , it would make turning that bit easier"

Agree about the touch screen controls, it's bad ergonomics.
Where are you're eyes when you are doing this - yes correct. NOT on the road

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      11-20-2021, 03:25 AM   #134
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To be clear, there will still be a non EV, non hybrid 5er, right? Might be a stupid question but just clarifying because the way I've seen some articles worded makes it seem like there will only be fully electric and hybrid models for the 5.
I5 is the electric, but I think 5 series will be still ice+hybrid. Especially for outside of EU.
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      11-20-2021, 10:35 AM   #135
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Will the next 5 series be all electric, combustion engine, or both?
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Will the next 5 series be all electric, combustion engine, or both?
By all accounts, both.
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      11-20-2021, 12:31 PM   #137
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      11-20-2021, 12:56 PM   #138
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That's more like it.
Flat bottomed wheel makes no sense what so ever.
It's not like the last 35 years I've been driving I've sat in the car and thought , " you know what , I wish the bottom was flat , it would make turning that bit easier"
It's about ingress and egress, not steering.
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      11-20-2021, 01:59 PM   #139
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Can people really not get in and out if a car with a round steering wheel?!
You spend 99.999% of time driving the car and remainder getting in and out
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      11-20-2021, 04:51 PM   #140
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A flat bottom steering wheel doesn't particularly suit the 5 series. This particular one looks straight out of a Nissan Rogue.

No comment on the trend to move to wide, digital clusters with no depth or character.
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      11-21-2021, 01:30 PM   #141
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This has probably been noted already...but I see a flat bottomed steering wheel in the G60! Finally! Only been asking for this since the M Division was created.
Here is the non flat-bottomed version uncovered

What model is this?
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This has probably been noted already...but I see a flat bottomed steering wheel in the G60! Finally! Only been asking for this since the M Division was created.
Here is the non flat-bottomed version uncovered

What model is this?
2-Series Active Tourer
That round steering wheel looks nice but the active tourer itself is a disgusting pos
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      11-22-2021, 04:59 AM   #143
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Yeh 2 series tourer is a sad excuse for a BMW

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Purchased by people who don't know about cars and think that because it has a bmw badge on it's a "real" bmw…..
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      11-22-2021, 11:24 AM   #144
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Just took a look at the new spy shots. Really not a fan of the smaller profile head and tail lights and the look overall seems to be conforming more to other sedans, kind of similar to what MB has done with their current gen sedans. Much less unique IMO.
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      11-22-2021, 05:25 PM   #145
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      11-22-2021, 07:24 PM   #146
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I found this render at Auto Bild, Europe's biggest car magazine:
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I think the new interior is ok'ish. It's apparently mostly the same as the iX which I drove the other day.
Steering wheel, I prefer a round one but the D-shape is ok. Steering wheel buttons, I missed being able to turn off the speed assist but otherwise ok'ish.
Center console. The drive direction thingy is a bit confusing but ok to use.
The buttons around the iDrive wheel are not ok so I hope they fix it to the 5-series.
For anyone not knowing they look like touch buttons but are push buttons but when pushing, the whole plate holding all buttons is affected.
It works, but very clunky and awful feeling.
Having to go into menus to change climate controls is also worthless. Two, three menus in to turn on or adjust seat heating? No way.

Ohh... Interior is what any owner should care the most about since that's where you are.
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      12-26-2021, 06:22 PM   #149
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Thank God the new 5 doesent have the wacky grill. Size looks good too...not too big.
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      12-27-2021, 04:04 PM   #150
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Oh FFS, a steering wheel that is not round.

There is a clue in the word WHEEL
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      12-28-2021, 11:31 AM   #151
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      12-29-2021, 10:46 AM   #152
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Somebody in design really does not like the Hofmeister kink...
I think they’re obsessed with it, considering it exists in many places in the interior too now. The rev counter and speedometer on the dash screen, the vents, the door handles inside they all have the hofmeister kink.
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      01-09-2022, 12:36 AM   #153
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I think the new interior is ok'ish. It's apparently mostly the same as the iX which I drove the other day.
Steering wheel, I prefer a round one but the D-shape is ok. Steering wheel buttons, I missed being able to turn off the speed assist but otherwise ok'ish.
Center console. The drive direction thingy is a bit confusing but ok to use.
The buttons around the iDrive wheel are not ok so I hope they fix it to the 5-series.
For anyone not knowing they look like touch buttons but are push buttons but when pushing, the whole plate holding all buttons is affected.
It works, but very clunky and awful feeling.
Having to go into menus to change climate controls is also worthless. Two, three menus in to turn on or adjust seat heating? No way.

Ohh... Interior is what any owner should care the most about since that's where you are.
Completely agree on all of it, interior is a major loss of premium feeling and harder to use.
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      01-12-2022, 07:19 PM   #154
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I will be holding onto my 2020 G30 M550 vs this.

Once I put the Euro LCI tails on, it will be perfect.
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