[rhinosaur]

Originally Posted by E90SLAM

Dutch embarrassment!!!

Yeah, Portugal are no pushovers. 2-1 was a flattering result. It should have ended 5-1. It was also a good match for the Ronaldo critics. Shove it!

[Fox128i]

Any predictions for tomorrow's matches?

I have Italy over Ireland & Spain over Croatia. Anyone think Croatia could surprise us tomorrow?

[aizze]

anybody else disappointed in Netherlands ? from world cup semifinalist to Euro misfits as plainly stated by sports media.

I mean come on you have Van Persie leading scorer for the premier league & Klaas-Jan Huntelaar leading scorer for the Bundesliga!!!!

Still some how you manage to not win a single game, Denmark at least won 1!

[arnsbrae]

Originally Posted by Fox128i

Any predictions for tomorrow's matches?

I have Italy over Ireland & Spain over Croatia. Anyone think Croatia could surprise us tomorrow?

I agree about Italy but yet they have a history of making their fans sweat but still qualifying so expect their path to be bumpy...I think they could do well in the tournament if they get through.

I can't see Spain failing against Croatia.

Of course the biggest question of all is will Spain and Croatia draw 2 - 2? They would both go through and eliminate Italy.

The Italians have already broken cover and accused Spain and Croatia of scheming to draw the game 2 - 2 but I suppose they are just getting their retaliation in first...

[AU335i]

Originally Posted by aizze

anybody else disappointed in Netherlands ? from world cup semifinalist to Euro misfits as plainly stated by sports media.

I mean come on you have Van Persie leading scorer for the premier league & Klaas-Jan Huntelaar leading scorer for the Bundesliga!!!!

Still some how you manage to not win a single game, Denmark at least won 1!

spotty defense and not finishing with all these offensive weapons... they were given plenty opportunities but couldn't finish.

[ss134]

Rooney back for England tomorrow after missing first 2 games through suspension - if he can start to fire, England may surprise a few people and progress a bit further.

[Bimmer84]

[gary88]

Ukraine got robbed on that goal.

[AcMilan714]

Thank you England.



I think my Italy rather play you guys. Spain france will be an awesome game. Chillieni (sp) is injured Im guessing they will play bonucci.

[ss134]

Originally Posted by gary88

Ukraine got robbed on that goal.

The player who 'scored' was offside anyway so not really.

[ss134]

Originally Posted by AcMilan714

Thank you England.



I think my Italy rather play you guys. Spain france will be an awesome game. Chillieni (sp) is injured Im guessing they will play bonucci.

England would much rather play you than Spain as well!

[E90SLAM]

Ukraine got robbed.

[ss134]

Originally Posted by E90SLAM

Ukraine got robbed.

The player who 'scored' was OFFSIDE when the ball was played through to him so the goal shouldn't have stood anyway. Even if the goal had been given they would still be out.

[E90SLAM]

Originally Posted by ss134

The player who 'scored' was OFFSIDE when the ball was played through to him so the goal shouldn't have stood anyway. Even if the goal had been given they would still be out.

Yes, but since that's a mistake from the assistant referee anyways. So the game continues. Then the 4th (5th) referee made another mistake for not calling a goal scored.

The baseline referee cannot decide not to call a goal scored because he "believes" the previous play was off-side. That's not his job. As long as the sideline assistant referee does not raise his flag. Game still on.

Given the length of game time after the "offside" was not called, I believe the assistant referee will not raise the flag regardless.

[ABQ325i]

I'm guessing E90SLAM doesn't like England too much!

I'm happy we are playing Italy instead of Spain, we have a much better chance of going to the semi's now.

[E90SLAM]

Originally Posted by ABQ325i

I'm guessing E90SLAM doesn't like England too much!

I'm happy we are playing Italy instead of Spain, we have a much better chance of going to the semi's now.

I'm just sticking to the fact!! Giving born in Hong Kong and ManUtd/England fan since early 90's, I can't be more happier that England advanced. Great discipline they played so far. (Side story, I still remember the great game England played Germany back in Euro 1996, even though they lost in penalty, and Southgate missed the last one)

But the fact of the matter of that particular issue was, assistant referee made the first mistake. Then the goal line referee made another mistake. Two wrongs don't make it right.

Well, kinda works this time though.

[Bronze]

Originally Posted by ABQ325i

I'm guessing E90SLAM doesn't like England too much!

I'm happy we are playing Italy instead of Spain, we have a much better chance of going to the semi's now.

Maybe he does maybe he doesn't. I'd say first he wants the game called properly, to be decided by 22 players, and not referees with a lack of vision or courage. We all do.

As for Spain vs. France, that should be a good match up. Italy vs. England will be a good match up of two teams who have probably gotten as far as their most optimistic fans could have hoped, and now some of them will be rewarded with a semifinal slot.

[E90SLAM]

Again, I call for goal line technology. So we don't rely on referee's vision.
I forgive if they're far away, but he was staring at it, perhaps the white socks and cleats do blend in.

Also, the offside is separate issue. First mistake doesn't make the second one sounds more legit.

[E90SLAM]

ESPN's James Tyler is even more upset than me.

http://espnfc.com/us/en/news/1109116...troversy-.html

[Doctor///M]

Originally Posted by ss134

The player who 'scored' was offside anyway so not really.

Offside judgements get called wrongly all the time by officials since the inception of the sport... that's the nature of the game. A goal, however, is a goal. Even if they scored, Ukraine wouldn't have advanced BUT at least the game would've been more exciting!!

Originally Posted by E90SLAM

Ukraine got robbed.

Just comes to show how much technology is needed for cases like these. Your pic clearly shows the additional official at the bottom watching the line and did not call anything although the ball was over. Thumbs down FIFA This game could have been a LOT more exciting!!

[ABQ325i]

I remember England losing to Germany in the last world cup with England having a similar decision go against them early in the match, it ruined the whole game for England (in my biased opinion).

As you said, two wrongs don't make a right, but if the goal had been given it would have been the English fans complaining that the ref failed to give the offside.

Even if Ukraine had been given the goal we would finished top of the group and Ukraine would still have been eliminated.

[E90SLAM]

Originally Posted by ABQ325i

I remember England losing to Germany in the last world cup with England having a similar decision go against them early in the match, it ruined the whole game for England (in my biased opinion).

As you said, two wrongs don't make a right, but if the goal had been given it would have been the English fans complaining that the ref failed to give the offside.

Even if Ukraine had been given the goal we would finished top of the group and Ukraine would still have been eliminated.

Absolutely!

But what upsets those for pushing for goal line technology, was UEFA was experimenting the additional referee to spot, first time in major tournament. And still fail to accomplish.

Perhaps its another exhibit to proof that there's a need for such technology to be implemented.

Maybe also future technology embed in cleats to detect off-side? (since Adidas already put computer chips inside cleat boots). Maybe something can be done to the field and detect off-side.