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      06-29-2023, 05:15 PM   #89
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dont think the vernasca leather is that bad
I don’t think the leather is bad. It’s the seat. I’m driving an X6 40i loaner today. It has sensatec and honestly it’s fine. But the basic sport seat is awful (for me). I don’t think it’s an upholstery problem, they just need an available upgrade to a multi contour seat like the 5 has.
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      06-29-2023, 05:41 PM   #90
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Yeah, not the leather for me—but lack of multi contour. It’s a game changer and I have back issues.

Also, I’ve been spoiled by the full leather dash and leather on the doors—which it seems is gone for now at least in the G60, too.
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      06-29-2023, 07:03 PM   #91
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Wow, they have really taken stuff away from the 5 series. No soft close doors, no multi contour seats, no v8. I’m seriously considering the x5 M60. It still has all those things and drives just as well.
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      06-29-2023, 09:42 PM   #92
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The more I see how they have scaled back in certain areas for the G60, the happier I am I made the decision to purchase my 2023 G30 540i. This new G60 is just a big no for me.
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      06-30-2023, 09:00 AM   #93
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Yeah, not the leather for me—but lack of multi contour. It’s a game changer and I have back issues.

Also, I’ve been spoiled by the full leather dash and leather on the doors—which it seems is gone for now at least in the G60, too.
Wait, they do have Multi-Contour. I ordered it with mine via the Luxury Seating Package.
Unless I’m missing something, it is there as an option.
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      06-30-2023, 09:36 AM   #94
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Luxury seating only on the M560? Don’t see as an option in the 530 I just configured. Maybe they’ll offer for the 540. Still won’t stop the exterior from being ugly and the interior from being downgraded. So frustrating.
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      06-30-2023, 09:55 AM   #95
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According to some, the "multi-contour seats" offered here is a version with reduced functionality.

It's standard on the i5 M60 and an option for e40. It will be available for 530 starting November according to the pricing guide.
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According to some, the "multi-contour seats" offered here is a version with reduced functionality.

It's standard on the i5 M60 and an option for e40. It will be available for 530 starting November according to the pricing guide.
Some of what I’ve seen complained about are things that are questionable for a new model to go backwards on, but not really options I take advantage of either. Like massage seats and ambient light on the rear door. I do think the upgraded seats are well worth it, maybe even a requirement for me going forward. But the massage function isn’t something I would miss. The ventilation is useful in the summer in southwest TN.
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      06-30-2023, 11:46 AM   #97
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bowers & Wilkins at 950 / 1400 watts seems like a steal
So it's actually only 655 watts :-)

Adrenaline, amplified.
Set the tone for adventure. Standard on the i5 M60 Sedan, the powerful 17-speaker, 655-watt Bowers & Wilkins Surround System fills the cabin with rich and layered sound.
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      06-30-2023, 02:02 PM   #98
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So it's actually only 655 watts :-)

Adrenaline, amplified.
Set the tone for adventure. Standard on the i5 M60 Sedan, the powerful 17-speaker, 655-watt Bowers & Wilkins Surround System fills the cabin with rich and layered sound.
interesting, not sure what's going on, it was 1400 the other day in the build.

then again, the description for the moonroof the other day mentioned an opening moonroof then that changed too, so i guess they are making edits to the descriptions as things are getting caught
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      06-30-2023, 02:10 PM   #99
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The ambient lighting doesn’t even extend to the rear doors. Very disappointed with the amount of missing features.
I agree. For 80k to 100k stop being so cheap bmw. And looks so much better and cohesive at night with the rear lighting.
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      06-30-2023, 06:11 PM   #100
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I do miss my M550, but I’m not sure I’d like to give up my iX M60 for one of these just yet. I do miss these multi-contour seats with thigh extensions though…
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Just get an i7 like I did …. Better range, all options superior to iX, and the xDrive60s can be had 15-25k under sticker, so very close to the i5 which will sell at msrp or msrp+adm at this time if you really want out of the iX.

I sold the wife’s G05 45e for the i7 and gave her my iX M60 …. Everyone’s happy!

It was the overall aesthetics and lackluster range that moved me from i5M60 to i7x60. The M70 would be my preference, however the BMW team is on methamphetamines if they think the M70 is worth $170k base!
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      06-30-2023, 06:17 PM   #101
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Just get an i7 like I did …. Better range, all options superior to iX, and the xDrive60s can be had 15-25k under sticker, so very close to the i5 which will sell at msrp or msrp+adm at this time if you really want out of the iX.

I sold the wife’s G05 45e for the i7 and gave her my iX M60 …. Everyone’s happy!

It was the overall aesthetics and lackluster range that moved me from i5M60 to i7x60. The M70 would be my preference, however the BMW team is on methamphetamines if they think the M70 is worth $170k base!
If the M70 would have been out in January, I probably would’ve opted for that in the first place. I knew if I bought the current one that I would kick myself for not waiting! Looks like a totally dope car! I used the UK configurator and got it over $225K USD with my preferred options. Now that is a chunk of change!
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      06-30-2023, 10:18 PM   #102
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256 mile range on the top dog after figuring in Michigan winters will be more like 200 ish miles. Not very good considering price point. Needs minimum of 300 in my opinion.
Lol, its not for you, its for other people who don’t care and want bmw not a tesla science project car
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So it's actually only 655 watts :-)

Adrenaline, amplified.
Set the tone for adventure. Standard on the i5 M60 Sedan, the powerful 17-speaker, 655-watt Bowers & Wilkins Surround System fills the cabin with rich and layered sound.
Looks like the 7 series has two B&W options, one by default and an upgraded “diamond” option. Methinks they’ve just renamed the HK upgrade to B&W.

Hopefully the real diamond system comes out as an option later. It’s my favourite feature of my M550 and a possible deal breaker.
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I also don’t like no spare tire option. I built my 2021 with the spare tire and gives me peace of mind.
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I also don’t like no spare tire option. I built my 2021 with the spare tire and gives me peace of mind.
The G60 comes with spare tire as standard.

Edit: Clarification: Standard on the US G60 ICE version (not EV).

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The G60 comes with spare tire as standard.

Edit: Clarification: Standard on the US G60 ICE version (not EV).
Oh wow literally just noticed the new series comes with non run flat tires… why would they make such a sudden change completely against their long standing ethos?
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Oh wow literally just noticed the new series comes with non run flat tires… why would they make such a sudden change completely against their long standing ethos?
Because runflats suck and people have been bitching about it since the beginning of runflats.
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The G60 comes with spare tire as standard.

Edit: Clarification: Standard on the US G60 ICE version (not EV).
Thank you sir. I should have a actually looked at standard options.
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Where do you find that it has a spare tire standard?
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Big misses on the M60:

*No leather airbag cover
*No alcantara headliner option
*No massage seat option

Not good for my hypothetical $95k spec.
And no leather or stitched dash. The interior in general on both ICE and EV 5er variants seems to have some cost cuts compared to the previous generation and a lot less leather, stitching, and trim about the cabin, and lots more plastic. The X5's cabin seems to be a lot more premium despite being an older design.

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