[scottz5]

Originally Posted by docbolo

I actually wanted to at the end of graduate school (right after 9/11). My advisor convinced me out of it. But I am serving my country in my own way (not as honorably as our troops) by staying here and trying to cure cancer.

You cant cure anything when your head is up your ass!

I hope you do to be honest!

[scottz5]

Originally Posted by poldim

Nobody is accusing Bush of masterminding the attacks 9/11, he's an idiot, he would never be able to pull it off. But thats what he has his cabinet for.

DITTO

He cant even speak let alone come up with a plan. Bush is a fing tool!

[poldim]

Originally Posted by docbolo

Thanks Oz, I watched a little of this (15 mins) and I did not enjoy it

I'm a scientist and this is the most non-scientific crap I have ever seen.

Please provide some of your scientific evidence that you gathered about 9/11.

[shimshimhada]

I already have a cure for cancer, unfortunately since I fear exploitation, I'm injecting all of the cure into my blood stream.

[docbolo]

Originally Posted by scottz5

You cant cure anything when your head is up your ass!

I hope you do to be honest!

thanks for your support. See you soon.

[Jason]

Please carry on the conversation in this thread without calling any names or insulting in a personal way any other member. I'd like to keep the thread open. Thanks.

[docbolo]

Originally Posted by poldim

Please provide some of your scientific evidence that you gathered about 9/11.

You know what? I'm all alone here, so you guys win. Well, you all lost the elections (which matter), but you win the e90post political debate. I don't have time to give you a 10 page post on something so retarded like the validity of 9/11. Ok, 9/11 was a hoax, man on the moon never happened, holocaust was a broadway show. You are right man.

I'm sorry for offending everyone. I'm going to stay out of the off topic area. Good rittens to DocBolo. Scott from NJ has my address so you can all come down here with him and attempt to kick my ass. I welcome it. Great plan.

Atleast we can all agree that the E90 kicks ass (and most of you on this site also will agree I am an asshole, LOL). :rocks:

[scottz5]

Originally Posted by Jason

Please carry on the conversation in this thread without calling any names or insulting in a personal way any other member. I'd like to keep the thread open. Thanks.

Relax Jason we are not taking it to heart!

[scottz5]

Originally Posted by docbolo

You know what? I'm all alone here, so you guys win. Well, you all lost the elections (which matter), but you win the e90post political debate. I don't have time to give you a 10 page post on something so retarded like the validity of 9/11. Ok, 9/11 was a hoax, man on the moon never happened, holocaust was a broadway show. You are right man.

I'm sorry for offending everyone. I'm going to stay out of the off topic area. Good rittens to DocBolo. Scott from NJ has my address so you can all come down here with him and attempt to kick my ass. I welcome it. Great plan.

Atleast we can all agree that the E90 kicks ass (and most of you on this site also will agree I am an asshole, LOL). :rocks:

haha

[sdorn]

Originally Posted by docbolo

You know what? I'm all alone here, so you guys win.

You're not alone. In fact, there was a poll up not too long ago that indicated there are more conservatives on here than liberals (at least that voted in the poll). The vote was 28 conservatives to 24 liberals with the rest being moderates.

I quit posting in these political threads whenever I can keep myself from doing so as they are never ending and pointless. I have only come across a couple of people that can make reasonable arguments while the rest resort to name calling and spouting rhetoric with no actual facts to back up their position.

[JB 330ci]

Originally Posted by sdorn

You're not alone. In fact, there was a poll up not too long ago that indicated there are more conservatives on here than liberals (at least that voted in the poll). The vote was 28 conservatives to 24 liberals with the rest being moderates.

I quit posting in these political threads whenever I can keep myself from doing so as they are never ending and pointless. I have only come across a couple of people that can make reasonable arguments while the rest resort to name calling and spouting rhetoric with no actual facts to back up their position.

So true. People seem to base their opinions on opinions. Has anyone done any research or looked for the facts.

Fact: 9/11 was not some vast conspiracy. It was on videotape. No amount of government cover-up could try to cover that up.
Opinion: If the Twin Towers survived the attack would they have demolished? I would say yes since it would pose a serious structural integrity problem, There has never been an attempt to repair or reconstruct a (skyscraper) from the amount of damage the Twin Towers received. There is no possible way in order to reconstruct the towers to the same structural integrity needed.

Fact: Afghanistan was holding UBL, and the Taliban. They had to go. We invaded
Fact: What ever you believe about OIF or the reasons surrounding the OIF war, we are there now.
Fact: Bush is not an idiot, a post in this very thread shows he does not have an IQ below the state average to be classified as "slow"
Truth: Facts are facts, you cannot discount a fact. Facts are used in order to support particular positions. People who can't debate use opinions to support positions and disregard facts.
Opinions: Opinions can be based off of facts, however they show a bias towards the position a person is supporting.
Opinion: Liberals are pussy's
Opinion: Conservatives are fascist, Christians

Can you prove the last two opinions based on facts in all cases?
Personal attacks demonstrate a weak position, same as avoiding the question, or changing the subject. Yes I'm attacking both sides here because I am sick and tired of people presenting their view as (God) so to speak.

Debating is productive to society however useless tirades just alienates people from the very point or position you are trying to make.


If you want to debate aganist me go right ahead...

[cosmosblau]

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

-George Orwell, 1984

[Muttley]

Great... we broke 100 posts on this topic^^^^^. I will be back at 200....

[ska///235i]

"George Bush don't care about black people" - Kanye West

[Laplacian]

Originally Posted by docbolo

You know what? I'm all alone here, so you guys win.

As sdorn said, you are not alone.

Whether or not the liberals agree, the world will be safer in the long run because of our actions. The post-war situation in Iraq has not gone perfectly, but things are slowly getting better. It is unfortunate that we could not find all of the WMDs that we'd hoped for--they have most likely been moved to terrorist playgrounds like Syria and Iran. Still, at least they are out of the hands of one madman. But in the end we will have a true democracy and freedom for one country in the Middle East (Iraq)--that will be a great thing and I think many people have lost sight of that.

What I hate is how some ultra-liberals are doing everything in their power to sabotage the effort in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or how Howard Dean and the moveon.org fascists compare Bush to the nazis and worse. Despicable. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but claiming that Bush (or his administration) planned or had previous knowledge of 9/11, well that's as un-American as you can get. So is accusing him of being worse than Hitler. Having a conversation with one of these zealots is a complete waste of time.

If the moderate liberals were smart, they'd distance themselves from these ultra-liberal lunatics, but they don't. Good, I'm glad. This will mean more conservatives in office.

[Oz]

Being a conservative and liberal is different than voting for the republican and democratic party. 9/11 issue isn't about what party you support or whether you like Bush or not IMO

[cosmosblau]

Originally Posted by Laplacian

As sdorn said, you are not alone........
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but claiming that Bush (or his administration) planned or had previous knowledge of 9/11, well that's as un-American as you can get. So is accusing him of being worse than Hitler. ...........

Yes, this offends me too. Bush is far more like Mussolini than Hitler. Today's political climate more resembles the Fascism from 1930's Italy than Nazi Germany. Didn't anyone ever take history class?

Originally Posted by Laplacian

If the moderate liberals were smart, they'd distance themselves from these ultra-liberal lunatics, but they don't.

Yeah, best keep your mouth shut, because the government is listening!
Want to get away from it all?
Watch your step, or you might be rounded up with the other "terrorists".