[dmboone25]

I could see the utility of a commuter EV, as it would be quiet and efficient in traffic without too much hassle.

But for any car intended to be utilized for fun / enjoyment, the approach is not my cup of tea. Very fast, no doubt, but lacking in other areas important to the experience, namely sound.

I also believe the current state of the US electrical grid isn’t equipped to produce enough electricity for a widespread adoption of the technology itself.

Until EVs are 1). Competitively priced, 2). Can recharge in the same time it takes to fill a gas tank, and 3). Part of a reliable charging network / infrastructure to support widespread adoption, then you’re never going to see people convert en masse.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's the things you can't see like microplastics which are the slow silent killer, you don't worry about it of course but know it's always there.

I can't believe people still worry about microplastics.

All the smart people I know simply take a spoonful of these suckers with our coffee every morning. No microplastics in these intestines.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ecycling-waste

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

I can't believe people still worry about microplastics.

All the smart people I know simply take a spoonful of these suckers with our coffee every morning. No microplastics in these intestines.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ecycling-waste

It will be interesting to see what afflictions we are treating 20-30 yrs from now. Things deemed safe that are found to have been unsafe and vise versa. Remember eggs?

We Always cure some things but new things always crop up.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

It will be interesting to see what afflictions we are treating 20-30 yrs from now. Things deemed safe that are found to have been unsafe and vise versa. Remember eggs?

We Always cure some things but new things always crop up.

A certain person on our side of the pond warned us of salmonella in egg production some years ago.

[eugenebmw]

Tesla Cybertruck Owner in Canada Says the Truck is “Dangerous” After Experiencing First Drive in the Snow; Forced to Slow Down to 25 Mph on the Highway & Stop Multiple Times to Clean the Headlights.

Someone told me the Cybertruck were designed and build to run on Mars. Too bad so sad, you are using them on earth. Are you dump or what


https://www.torquenews.com/11826/tes...ve-snow-forced

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Tesla Cybertruck Owner in Canada Says the Truck is “Dangerous” After Experiencing First Drive in the Snow; Forced to Slow Down to 25 Mph on the Highway & Stop Multiple Times to Clean the Headlights.

Someone told me the Cybertruck were designed and build to run on Mars. Too bad so sad, you are using them on earth. Are you dump or what


https://www.torquenews.com/11826/tes...ve-snow-forced

Hardly surprising with the two inch high h/lights low down there, I wonder if there's an option for power h/lamp spray cleaners filled with anti freeze solution on the Cybers.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Tesla Cybertruck Owner in Canada Says the Truck is “Dangerous” After Experiencing First Drive in the Snow; Forced to Slow Down to 25 Mph on the Highway & Stop Multiple Times to Clean the Headlights.

Someone told me the Cybertruck were designed and build to run on Mars. Too bad so sad, you are using them on earth. Are you dump or what


https://www.torquenews.com/11826/tes...ve-snow-forced

I can see those issues as legit concerns. The light bar should be a software fix in a "snow mode" where the light bar is turned off. Adding heaters to the headlights is a necessary production change.

But I wonder what the heat energy use impact is to keep the giant windshield clear from ice accumulation and fogging.

[AmuroRay]

Car prices have risen over 46% in the last 3 years, while financing is harder to secure and more costly. Electric cars continue to be rebated allowing them to undercut the ridiculous prices of new cars whose inventory are still piling up.

Evs have been and always will be a stupid idea and aren't saving anything - including money. More money and resources have to be spent on building new cars, new infrastructure, and most of the cars are absolutely disposable. How does this save the planet?

I basically ignore anyone in Canada and California when they post because they are the type to jump on any new fad because the government tells them to. The government and "science" could (and basically have) crap on them and they would believe it's mana.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Hardly surprising with the two inch high h/lights low down there, I wonder if there's an option for power h/lamp spray cleaners filled with anti freeze solution on the Cybers.

A few years ago, on my H3T I replaced the H13 bulbs with LED bulbs (which sucked BTW). The H3T's lights are a bit recessed in the grille, which led to the same issue of snow buildup. The heat from the stock incandescent bulbs keeps the headlights warm enough to melt the snow.

I recently switched back to halogen bulbs. I bumped that wattage to 80/100W. Old school is sometimes good school...

[eugenebmw]

My Cybertruck Is Dead, Tesla Cannot Open It, They Don't Know What Happened As It Feels Without Power While Fully Charged.


https://www.torquenews.com/17612/my-...-without-power

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

A few years ago, on my H3T I replaced the H13 bulbs with LED bulbs (which sucked BTW). The H3T's lights are a bit recessed in the grille, which led to the same issue of snow buildup. The heat from the stock incandescent bulbs keeps the headlights warm enough to melt the snow.

I recently switched back to halogen bulbs. I bumped that wattage to 80/100W. Old school is sometimes good school...

That's good to know, those CT's could do with those bulbs...

[medphysdave]

Fueling the fire

https://twitter.com/kaaaassuu/status/18745...otel-las-vegas

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Fueling the fire

https://twitter.com/kaaaassuu/status/18745...otel-las-vegas

That looks intentional. It basically exploded. There were fireworks noises as well.

[gblansten]

"An unnamed official told ABC News the vehicle was carrying a load of “fireworks-style” mortar shells that seem to have exploded, killing the driver and causing minor injuries to seven bystanders."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b0f0764d9baaf6

[M5Rick]

No fireworks, no mortars lol the C/Truck went up like a roman candle from what I see, the huffpost's assumption was that it was unlikely to happen...well it did.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

No fireworks, no mortars lol the C/Truck went up like a roman candle from what I see, the huffpost's assumption was that it was unlikely to happen...well it did.

So a Tesla blew up on January 1 at the TRUMP HOTEL and you think it was just a random electrical fire.

[gblansten]

“Inside the truck were fireworks, gas tanks, and camping fuel connected to a detonation system controlled by the driver, CNN reports.”

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/cy...gas/index.html

For those not blinded with EV hate this vehicle did not just spontaneously and accidentally explode in front of the TRUMP HOTEL.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Car prices have risen over 46% in the last 3 years, while financing is harder to secure and more costly. Electric cars continue to be rebated allowing them to undercut the ridiculous prices of new cars whose inventory are still piling up.

Do you have any data to back any of that up?

• Car prices went up 46% over the last 3 years?
  Nope.
  More like 20.6% from 2020 to 2022, inline with post-Covid inflation:
  https://www.statista.com/statistics/...united-states/
• Electric cars undercutting ICE car prices?
  Nope.
  As per Edmunds, there was a 42% gap in the average price of an electric car vs. a gas car. Larger for SUVs, smaller for large pickups.
  https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/a...s-gas-car.html

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Evs have been and always will be a stupid idea and aren't saving anything - including money. More money and resources have to be spent on building new cars, new infrastructure, and most of the cars are absolutely disposable. How does this save the planet?

Post some data, and we can have an intelligent conversation.
For now, you are just sharing political slogans devoid of substance.

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

I basically ignore anyone in Canada and California when they post because they are the type to jump on any new fad because the government tells them to. The government and "science" could (and basically have) crap on them and they would believe it's mana.

So what do people in Floriduah, like yourself, prefer to follow instead of government and science?
Conspiracy theories?

[gblansten]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/vi...gas-sot-digvid

Battery for the Cybertruck did not catch fire and contained the explosion fairly well.

Video shows some of the burned contents in the truck bed including gas canisters.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gblansten

So a Tesla blew up on January 1 at the TRUMP HOTEL and you think it was just a random electrical fire.

I didn't say that, don't get over excited. So now a dead body inside the CT opens up another avenue as more news comes in by the minute.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by afadeev

Do you have any data to back any of that up?

• Electric cars undercutting ICE car prices?
  Nope.
  As per Edmunds, there was a 42% gap in the average price of an electric car vs. a gas car. Larger for SUVs, smaller for large pickups.
  https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/a...s-gas-car.html

This is the real issue with EV adoption. The 42% price gap beteen EV and ICEV buys about 80,000 miles of gasoline. Then tack on the cost and inconvenience of public charging, and most people just stick with ICEV. ICEV recharging works across all socio-economic levels, EV are less desirable for people who can't charge at home.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

I basically ignore anyone in Canada and California when they post because they are the type to jump on any new fad because the government tells them to. The government and "science" could (and basically have) crap on them and they would believe it's mana.

I mean, there are various Canadians here that argue against EVs and against government mandates as well, myself included (and I even lean left generally) , that EV should always be a personal choice. We aren't all sheeps up here whether you are left or right.

No I do not think EVs save the environment, paying a carbon footprint price larger than a ICE car first, just to get ahead in a few years is a stupid idea when global warming is already as bad as it is, best to reduce your footprint now with investments in infrastructures like high speed rail and drastic improvements to public transportation.

Having said that, I am eyeing a Polestar 2 for the wife to replace our ailing X5. The dealer cash offer and the iZEV credit here, and the deals happens to work very in our favor right now compared to financing a low mileage plug in. In the end, it suits my financial needs and use now, so why the hell not. I am not buying it to 'save the planet'.

I was gun-ho about a PHEV since we use the car for both slow in-town traffic, and long road trips, and a PHEV would fit that role perfectly, but the local X5 45e fetches a very high premium to a gas one (about 20k CAD difference for similar year and mileage), same story with the X3 30e (about 16-18k in general), not to mention finance rates are still quite unattractive