[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Aatish

Well, it's not just one moment we're eating ice cream and talking about shit, the next minute straight up intercourse...

Starts off slow. The casual friends stuff. Slowly start start incorporating touch (holding her had,holding her waste, and leading her through a door, picking her up when hugging). Also, keeping a slight sexual tension. Key is not to get stuck in the casual friends part too long.

but how did u get to hugging her in the first place?
i guess what im asking is, how does one do this naturally without having to make it overt.. and without akwardness

prob i just need to do it more, the few times i tried it the reaction was like what the hell? ..

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by grimlock

that was all
'
hey
'
3 letters

lol, at least put some effort into it. "Yo", probably would've work too, followed by "what's cracking".

When she responds, don't just respond with "What's up?".

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by grimlock

but how did u get to hugging her in the first place?
i guess what im asking is, how does one do this naturally without having to make it overt.. and without akwardness

prob i just need to do it more, the few times i tried it the reaction was like what the hell? ..

If you play your cards right, she'll hug you first. You just turn things up after that

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Aatish

lol, at least put some effort into it. "Yo", probably would've work too, followed by "what's cracking".

When she responds, don't just respond with "What's up?".

"sup"
Cuz, cooler.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by grimlock

thought about it, what would u recommend?

i didn't want to come across as needy

You aren't needy, grimmy. Just inquisitive. Show her that you are interested in how she is doing since the inception of your interaction between the two of you, to spark some conversation. Women like to be stimulated mentally. That's where the fun begins.

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

"sup"
Cuz, cooler.

"What it do"

Cuz, once black, never goes back...

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

[B]Women like to be stimulated mentally. That's where the fun begins.[B]

This.

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Aatish

lol, at least put some effort into it. "Yo", probably would've work too, followed by "what's cracking".

When she responds, don't just respond with "What's up?".

but low effort = cool , no?

i so wanted to whatsup her to death, but had to refrain from being so banal and teenager with my hand in my jean pocket -ish

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Aatish

If you play your cards right, she'll hug you first. You just turn things up after that

what? really?
like do i have put on a bunny custume on first or something?
i get the body accidently rubbing.. i guess it requires a general light, relaxed, fun mood.. i think this may be my problem (too much seriousness)

zen, "beginner mind" oooomm

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by grimlock

but low effort = cool , no?

i so wanted to whatsup her to death, but had to refrain from being so banal and teenager with my hand in my jean pocket -ish

Hell no!

Low effort interest= typical. Showing interest = cool. Too much interest = stalker.

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

You aren't needy, grimmy. Just inquisitive. Show her that you are interested in how she is doing since the inception of your interaction between the two of you, to spark some conversation. Women like to be stimulated mentally. That's where the fun begins.

yeah i was thinking about this
the times i found myself staring right into her serial-killerish was when i had asked an inquisitive question, almost too refined, too well-thought out.. it felt like i was waiting for her to walk into a trap i had set up ()
but i just watched a video, which says asking question is actually NOT good, because it's asking something of her, where the ideal situation is to be naturally so interesting that u are basically being yourself and thus she will be wanting to ask questions of u..
I get the mentality of wanting her to open up to u, to give u something to work with, guess i have never taken that route to finality so i dont know what happens there..

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by grimlock

what? really?
like do i have put on a bunny custume on first or something?
i get the body accidently rubbing.. i guess it requires a general light, relaxed, fun mood.. i think this may be my problem (too much seriousness)

zen, "beginner mind" oooomm

Lol, a Bunny costume might help.

It all comes down to what I posted earlier. Don't interact with the girl with the idea of banging the shit out of her on your mind. You'll be expecting something, and you'll 99% of the time never get it. Once you get to know the girl a little bit, put yourself in her shoes, and think of shit that will make her feel good.

I.e; through casual convo, you figure out the girl likes eating new foods, but doesn't go eat cuz she's afraid or whatever. Instead of taking her to Panera next time, take her to something different.

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Aatish

Hell no!

Low effort interest= typical. Showing interest = cool. Too much interest = stalker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc1E...chOhJUdjfJjJzQ

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Aatish

Lol, a Bunny costume might help.

It all comes down to what I posted earlier. Don't interact with the girl with the idea of banging the shit out of her on your mind. You'll be expecting something, and you'll 99% of the time never get it. Once you get to know the girl a little bit, put yourself in her shoes, and think of shit that will make her feel good.

I.e; through casual convo, you figure out the girl likes eating new foods, but doesn't go eat cuz she's afraid or whatever. Instead of taking her to Panera next time, take her to something different.

guess im not a very good listener lol
yeah i have no idea what makes a woman feel good.. it's a win if i haven't made them uncomfortable enough to run away already

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by grimlock

yeah i was thinking about this
the times i found myself staring right into her serial-killerish was when i had asked an inquisitive question, almost too refined, too well-thought out.. it felt like i was waiting for her to walk into a trap i had set up ()
but i just watched a video, which says asking question is actually NOT good, because it's asking something of her, where the ideal situation is to be naturally so interesting that u are basically being yourself and thus she will be wanting to ask questions of u..
I get the mentality of wanting her to open up to u, to give u something to work with, guess i have never taken that route to finality so i dont know what happens there..

Just leave your questions open-ended. It is fairly easy to determine whether or not a woman is interested in you simply by gauging her degree of conversation. Never chase for a response.

[Axius]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

I'd date you, but it probably wouldn't get anywhere far until you quit.

I'll take what I can get.

Originally Posted by grimlock

yeah i was thinking about this
the times i found myself staring right into her serial-killerish was when i had asked an inquisitive question, almost too refined, too well-thought out.. it felt like i was waiting for her to walk into a trap i had set up ()
but i just watched a video, which says asking question is actually NOT good, because it's asking something of her, where the ideal situation is to be naturally so interesting that u are basically being yourself and thus she will be wanting to ask questions of u..
I get the mentality of wanting her to open up to u, to give u something to work with, guess i have never taken that route to finality so i dont know what happens there..

Don't be so critical in everything. Don't watch videos, because everyone has their own way of doing things, you need to do things that fit YOUR personality.

Take mental notes of things she said. My girl said she likes seafood, but has never had lobster. So instead of asking another question, we ended up on a whole shpeel of how we're going to open a delicious lobster shack on the side of the highway. Have fun with your conversations, be playful, get her involved. Women like wit and intelligence, but they also love to laugh way more.

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by grimlock

guess im not a very good listener lol
yeah i have no idea what makes a woman feel good.. it's a win if i haven't made them uncomfortable enough to run away already

Like I said before, just talk casually with more girls. That'll get you far. Also helps knowing about some of the stuff they like, i.e. fashion. Complimenting a girl on her Hunter boots, Burberry Cardigan, and even the perfume they wear (without getting creepy) is the perfect way to break the ice.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Axius

Don't be so critical in everything. Don't watch videos, because everyone has their own way of doing things, you need to do things that fit YOUR personality.

Take mental notes of things she said. My girl said she likes seafood, but has never had lobster. So instead of asking another question, we ended up on a whole shpeel of how we're going to open a delicious lobster shack on the side of the highway. Have fun with your conversations, be playful, get her involved. Women like wit and intelligence, but they also love to laugh way more.

Don't be copying what I said.

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Axius

I'll take what I can get.



Don't be so critical in everything. Don't watch videos, because everyone has their own way of doing things, you need to do things that fit YOUR personality.

Take mental notes of things she said. My girl said she likes seafood, but has never had lobster. So instead of asking another question, we ended up on a whole shpeel of how we're going to open a delicious lobster shack on the side of the highway. Have fun with your conversations, be playful, get her involved. Women like wit and intelligence, but they also love to laugh way more.

i see.. so questions that lead to activities.. rather than endless questions so i can write a wikipage on her

yeah i don't know where the hell i got to be so critical in everything from.. oh wait i know (thanks dad)

im def. working on being my self more.. guess i have been cockblocked from out of the womb

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Don't be copying what I said.

he said it better

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Aatish

Like I said before, just talk casually with more girls. That'll get you far. Also helps knowing about some of the stuff they like, i.e. fashion. Complimenting a girl on her Hunter boots, Burberry Cardigan, and even the perfume they wear (without getting creepy) is the perfect way to break the ice.

jesus christ i am NOT going to turn myself into a fashionista to get a girl... NO WAY in hell ...

hey man, my cousin is like that too lolol

[Axius]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Don't be copying what I said.

I didn't read, I'm sick and in a bad mood today, so deal with it.

Originally Posted by grimlock

i see.. so questions that lead to activities.. rather than endless questions so i can write a wikipage on her

yeah i don't know where the hell i got to be so critical in everything from.. oh wait i know (thanks dad)

im def. working on being my self more.. guess i have been cockblocked from out of the womb

Yes, questions that can lead into a fun conversation about "X" thing. When you ask question after question, it starts to feel like an interrogation to them, instead of having fun.

It comes with time, just think of things that you can relate to what she says, and it will flow naturally on it's own. Give it time and be patient.