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Can I ask you how much you knew about Afghanistan prior to going there, and how much you know now, after having been there? Pakhto ra ze? Did you ever have any perspectives on Afghanistan outside of what you were told by the US military and experienced as a soldier invading Afghanistan? Are you able to listen to any criticism of US forces? Do you think US troops are somehow saints who should never be questioned? That mentality reminds me of the same people you keep bringing up as a shotgun accusation against anyone who disagrees with you - Nazis. Quote:
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I'm still wondering what you would do if some morally high and mighty force came to "liberate" America from its oppressive government and enforce the system of governance it felt was inherently superior. Or if some avenging nation came to make all of America pay for some crimes that a small segment of the American populace may or may not have been guilty of. Would you be a "terrorist" then? |
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Get the fuck outta here. It's really clear that if you had your way, you'd put us under the same system of governance that you supposedly "liberated" Afghanistan from (not that Afghanistan is really liberated with or without Karzai, by any stretch of the imagination). The idea that American Muslims are "disloyal to America" because they even QUESTION - let alone protest, lobby, or advocate against - the wanton destruction of Muslim countries worldwide is FUCKING STUPIDLY ABSURD. Why should American Muslims be marginalized in that sense, when every other ethnicity and religion has powerful political lobbying organizations that do the exact same thing for the sake of their ends? He's just as American as you are, and you have no right to question his loyalties. |
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+1000000000 on everyone's posts except Accord's and some other douchebag's (Don't remember his name)
Your remark about us being sheep living our simple little lives and the shit you said to DP is the exact reason your ass gets booed in airports(In American Airports by real Americans). I know you are proud of what you are doing over there and I don't blame you but your name calling and self righteous attitude in response to some questions is the reason this thread has went south! |
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Why do you guys try to talk politics, history, and sense to a teenager trained to follow orders and pull the trigger by our current corrupt government? He was never taught otherwise, so that is his perspective. That is what he knows. Like I said before, brainwashed. He's not going to learn anything on this forum. I said before that I feel bad for him (and many others like him), because one day, when he's older, he'll see the broader picture and know/understand more. And if he has any conscience, he'll regret what he did and what the US government did post 9/11. And he won't feel very good then. So, leave the guy alone. Right now, the government has made him into a killing machine. They've succeeded at doing that. Who do you blame? Not every soldier is like him, but many are. It's sad more than anything. Sad for the young soldiers and most of all sad for this country.
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You my friend are a *CERTIFIED* mother fucking BA. Thanks for your service brother, you're a true hero.
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12-23-2008, 09:51 PM | #57 |
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I support the idea of liberation, but that video glorified war, which I do not agree with. I have never been and never will be in the armed forces, but there doesn't seem to be anything great about warfare. Just slaughtering other human beings.
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*sigh* Ok, I'm calm. I'm going to try to explain this shit to your feeble incoherent ass so MAYBE if you have an ounce of sense in your punitive brain, you'll understand exactly what is going on. Let me make a point to you, that while I'm from the middle east/Indo-pak region, I've lived in this country for 17 years, so don't tell me I'm stating anti-american bullshit. Why don't you go and read the history of your country, oh wait, I forgot, you're just a tool who just points and shoot. Ask your superiors about the history of United States, someone you know really good, real close, if you even know anyone that high, they may actually tell you the real reason, if they know it. You remember why we even went to Afghanistan?? To find "Osama" - oh yeah, they found Saddam underground yet they can't find the biggest terrorist in the world. Good one. Whatever man, it is because of ignorant jackasses as yourself that people think the military is full of morons. Oh wait, let's look back on the antics of the soldiers at the Abu-Gharaib (check SP on that) prison location with the tortures etc....wtf is that? Oh wait, let's go to Guantanamo where innocent civilians were put to prison and are STILL detained. Oh wait, let's go to the multitude of people harassed/wire-tapped. I love my country, but that doesn't change the facts. Get your shit straight and your head out of the fucking G.I. Joe fantasy you live in. Last edited by darkphantom; 12-24-2008 at 01:15 AM.. |
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in before its closed..... Sorry Accord I support the Armed Forces, but man you need to calm down. I'm no liberal and i mostly agree with the most of the wonderful things you've done there, but dont disrepect it and yourself by saying some of this stuff.
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Ah man this turned to a total shit show.
Its why I avoid touchy subjects such as this and politics.
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.... if you know anything about the conflict then you know Afghanistan is not about liberation.
Taliban knew exactly what AQ was and rejected our pleas for intervention. Then, 9/11 occurred, guess what Taliban, you're not allowed to exist anymore. You have a problem with that? I don't. Iraq is debateable and much more complex, but our presence in Afghanistan? Gimme a break, douchebag. If you don't support our presence in Afghanistan removing the Taliban infrastructure, then this means you support the idea of a host government allowing their 'people' to plot terrorist plane bombings, carrying them out, and then saying "haha you can't do anything about it, and neither can/will we". Since that's your take, I think you can go suck on your dad's dick. How about that! |
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