[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by Biorin

Are you still doing the same thing, roughly?

Yes but a much bigger scope. More responsibility, more client interaction. Wayyy more challenging. Panic attacks at work are great.

[Aatish]

I giggled.

[Axius]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Unless you're exempt from OT.

Oh yeah..., there's that also.

Originally Posted by silvergray545

For sure. I might be down to grab a drink if I get out of here early enough. I'm already on this side of town anyway.

Sweet, just give me a holler I'll be around. Might be smoking crack down by the bay where the watermelon grows..., although I dare not go..., for if I do..., my momma might sayyyyyyyyyyy

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

Leaving public was the best decision I've ever made. Fuck all of that.

Originally Posted by Biorin

Haha, personal tax is a bitch! I have been to work for a grand total of maybe 6 hours this week. 10pm busy season though, in my dreams...

I did leave public!!! I'm working for myself now and I have to say, I hate my boss' guts sometimes. But I can't hate him for very long. I know - 10pm would be nothing back when I was in public accounting

Originally Posted by Axius

It's okay. Being hourly back then weekends would bring in some serious OT money.

Salary now is 40 to 45 hours max and I'm out. Most the time it's not even a full 40, more like 35ish.

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Unless you're exempt from OT.

Ha ha ha - yeah, you know how it is. I remember in public accounting the employer (in my view) gleefully posting all these notices around the copiers and café indicating they had an exemption from the government from paying us overtime until we had gone past 60 billable hours per week. And I'm pretty sure that was billable - not including the admin. And unless I wanted a nice little chewing out on the other side from the partner when I was preparing the billing and our recovery was through the floor, there was no way I was getting more than 60 billable per week.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Axius

Sweet, just give me a holler I'll be around. Might be smoking crack down by the bay where the watermelon grows..., although I dare not go..., for if I do..., my momma might sayyyyyyyyyyy

I suspect you've already been hoisting a few?

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Ha ha ha - yeah, you know how it is. I remember in public accounting the employer (in my view) gleefully posting all these notices around the copiers and café indicating they had an exemption from the government from paying us overtime until we had gone past 60 billable hours per week. And I'm pretty sure that was billable - not including the admin. And unless I wanted a nice little chewing out on the other side from the partner when I was preparing the billing and our recovery was through the floor, there was no way I was getting more than 60 billable per week.

60 Hours?? Not in NY, free slave labor til they drop.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

60 Hours?? Not in NY, free slave labor til they drop.

Well, have to make profit somehow right. And that was 60 billable I was referencing - to even somehow justify 60 billable, you'd be spending at least 80-90 working hours, because admin portion would suck up 20-30 hours of your week in those cases.

Don't you do public?

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Well, have to make profit somehow right. And that was 60 billable I was referencing - to even somehow justify 60 billable, you'd be spending at least 80-90 working hours, because admin portion would suck up 20-30 hours of your week in those cases.

Don't you do public?

Yup the only way to make a profit is to not pay overtime and kill your staff every season. Lol.

Jk- owners are just greedy.


I just left public.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

I just left public.

Best feeling ever!

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

Best feeling ever!

Oh yeah! But I still can't go to winter music conference in Miami in March.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Yup the only way to make a profit is to not pay overtime and kill your staff every season. Lol.

Jk- owners are just greedy.


I just left public.

Originally Posted by silvergray545

Best feeling ever!

Wife's first year as shareholder seems to be going well.

She's been working from home when not at a client. Probably averaging 2-3 days a week at home. Still putting in hours, but also training for Ironman 12 - 14 hours a week while getting a solid 7 hours of sleep each night. But then i'm assuming she's at least thrice as efficient as Joekerr

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Wife's first year as shareholder seems to be going well.

She's been working from home when not at a client. Probably averaging 2-3 days a week at home. Still putting in hours, but also training for Ironman 12 - 14 hours a week while getting a solid 7 hours of sleep each night. But then i'm assuming she's at least thrice as efficient as Joekerr

She also has *thrice* the amount of staff as Joekerr does...

But...yes...she probably is more efficient...women typically are.

[Biorin]

My first rock chip and it's huuuuuuge *whimpering sounds*

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Oh yeah! But I still can't go to winter music conference in Miami in March.

It's ok, I couldn't make it to Road Atlanta this month either.

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Wife's first year as shareholder seems to be going well.

She's been working from home when not at a client. Probably averaging 2-3 days a week at home. Still putting in hours, but also training for Ironman 12 - 14 hours a week while getting a solid 7 hours of sleep each night. But then i'm assuming she's at least thrice as efficient as Joekerr

Sounds like she's at a small firm. You can't have that kind of life at a large firm.

Also sounds like Joekerr can't have that kind of life working for himself either. Sorry buddy

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

She also has *thrice* the amount of staff as Joekerr does...

But...yes...she probably is more efficient...women typically are.

I don't think this is even debatable.

She still does staff, manager and admin work though.

There is another local firm who's growing fast, already larger than her current firm and happens to be the same firm she considered prior to moving to where she is now. She was seated at the same table as their managing partner at a networking event 3 weeks ago. He offered her the shareholder position over their construction division (her specialty) with nearly double the salary along with equity partnership.

It's really hard for me to be objective when she tells me about these things. All i hear is that's one step closer to retirement for me, yet have to keep my mouth shut.

It's actually the staff, manager and admin work that makes it difficult to keep my mouth shut. Her goal is aligned with about 1/3 of the shareholders in her firm, the young ones of course. That goal is to become pretty much what this other firm has become in the last 7 years. Now she has the opportunity to just jump on a different boat retaining captain status. Except in terms of advanced thinking, it's like the difference between being a captain in the Cuban Navy (her firm) and being one in the US Navy (new firm). New firm already realized they have to pander to millennials if they want staff. They have to be accommodating with schedules in order to retain good staff. And they have to PAY good staff to stay. Her firm still thinks like Big 4 but they just aren't anywhere close to having enough status to treat staff that way in anymore. She and the young guns plan on being the winds of change. I hope that their efforts are fruitful, and before it's too late. Either way, I don't think she'll leave without at least 2 years of effort under her belt. So i'll just zip it for now.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Biorin

My first rock chip and it's huuuuuuge *whimpering sounds*

Wait for the second and third. Then replace the windshield. Wait.......Dear God, tell me it's in the windshield!

Originally Posted by silvergray545

It's ok, I couldn't make it to Road Atlanta this month either.

Sounds like she's at a small firm. You can't have that kind of life at a large firm.

Also sounds like Joekerr can't have that kind of life working for himself either. Sorry buddy

One of the largest in the state, but yes, small. I think they employ 130 people in total.

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Wait for the second and third. Then replace the windshield. Dear God, tell me it's in the windshield!

One of the largest in the state, but yes, small. I think they employ 130 people in total.

Hood

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Biorin

Hood

What color 2018 F80 are you getting?

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

It's really hard for me to be objective when she tells me about these things. All i hear is that's one step closer to retirement for me, yet have to keep my mouth shut.

On the flip side, it's probably really hard for her to be objective and keep her mouth shut when she saw the RRS parked in the garage, as probably all she saw was 2 more years of working to pay it off...

That, and the other toys.

Yeah, zip it for now - that's a good approach. She's familiar with the staff, the clients and she can make it work for now. If it is a sinking ship, she'll see it. There's nothing like trying to divide up the profits at the end of the year to make her come to terms with the fact that she doesn't much like the older partners and might consider a switch in a few years.

Partnership is probably one of the most difficult of business relationships - in my limited experience.

Though I feel your pain re: double the salary. But it is an unknown - she doesn't know who will be working for her, who's good, who's bad, etc...I can relate to her reluctance to jump ship for now. But hopefully that other 2/3rds left are very close to retirement - otherwise she's just going to be beating her head against the wall I suspect.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

On the flip side, it's probably really hard for her to be objective and keep her mouth shut when she saw the RRS parked in the garage, as probably all she saw was 2 more years of working to pay it off...

That, and the other toys.

Yeah, zip it for now - that's a good approach. She's familiar with the staff, the clients and she can make it work for now. If it is a sinking ship, she'll see it. There's nothing like trying to divide up the profits at the end of the year to make her come to terms with the fact that she doesn't much like the older partners and might consider a switch in a few years.

Partnership is probably one of the most difficult of business relationships - in my limited experience.

Though I feel your pain re: double the salary. But it is an unknown - she doesn't know who will be working for her, who's good, who's bad, etc...I can relate to her reluctance to jump ship for now. But hopefully that other 2/3rds left are very close to retirement - otherwise she's just going to be beating her head against the wall I suspect.

Hey, she's the one with TWO cars. I only have one. Plus she has 4 bikes and i only have 3! She also has a treadmill and i don't. There is no equality at the Tonka residence.

She actually knows a hand full of people at the other firm and has kept in touch with the managing partner off and on. Mainly at CPE and things like that. The managing partner at her firm is the one who hired her. There is about 1/3 of the partners to be retired soon. And there is talk of buying out one of the batshit crazy partners. The managing partner is somewhat of a question mark. He's old school and wishes they were Big 4 which is never going to happen. He's been coming around as of late though. He's only been firm president for a year now and the outgoing president isn't fully retired yet. Once that happens I'm guessing she's going to see how much / quickly change is implemented and go from there.

She wants to be part of building something. But I'd imagine it's hard knowing that you could be doing the same somewhere else with more help and a much more modern tool box.

Shouldn't you be working?!?!

[capo180]

Originally Posted by Axius

It's okay. Being hourly back then weekends would bring in some serious OT money.



Salary now is 40 to 45 hours max and I'm out. Most the time it's not even a full 40, more like 35ish.

I'm salary OT over 50 hrs though! This week will be 64...

[Aatish]

Originally Posted by Biorin

Hood

Dr. Colorchip