[musc]

Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

don't be messing with vtec yo.......that shit is fast!

Vtec Yo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTR0rmXkg2g

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by fobunited

A Civic Si is a great car in its own right.

You are right--I test drove one of the new SI coupes, and it was a little rocket. It felt light and very fast--now, I have no idea how it would stack up to an M6, but as many people know, it does not take a lot of money to really soup up some of these smaller Japanese cars.

[NaTuReB0Y]

Originally Posted by catm3

Vtec Yo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTR0rmXkg2g

i remembered seeing a honda civic destroy a Z06 on youtube.........

[lux.sh]

civic si with 50shot and an intake(Without ecu reflash i.e hondata) will probably trap somewhere around 98mph according to that data above. Thats like 10mph slower than M6. You would think 10mph is nothing, but try to see the difference between 2 cars going 20mph and 30mph.

[karliejai]

uhhh we r talking about a m6 vs a civic...?!

[Ulrikgm]

Originally Posted by 325 Baller

This kid who I know has a civic si coupe with an intake and 50shot of NOS, hes putting 1grand on his car and wants to race my dads M6 convertible...im not into racing at ALL but for 1grand it might be worth it haha..what do you all think..can an SI take a m6?

It sounds crazy but please keep in mind that the M6 conv. is a 4400 pound car and the Civic is 2900 pounds. So if he has around 330-350bhp he should have the same power to weight ratio.

On the other hand the M6 has the SMG gearbox which makes the shifts faster and more reliable.

In my opinion it is sad that BMW has made an M car that heavy. It is almost as heavy as an X5 3.0 (I know the x5 is heavier but way to close).

[325 Baller]

Originally Posted by Viral

why don't you let your Dad race him? After all, it's HIS car........or are you the "baller" type who only fronts other people's things?

Just don't race him in your 325.......you'll lose ;-)

First off its a family car, so if we put it the way your portraying it...then I should let him drive my car everywhere also? 2nd you dont know me so why would you say the last part. Ive maybe gotten into one discussion where my age played a role in how i spoke and how what I said was reacted to on this forum so I dont think you can play the age or daddy bought you a car card ...sorry.


**If you were joking I apologize I just got home at 4:20 am EST and do not know what is sarcasm or real right now**

[killer_bee]

Be a better man and tell him he's right, his civic will probably beat the M6. That's what I would do.

[calvino]

race him :rocks:

[325 Baller]

Well its a easy 1k but id only do it if we went to a real track and that wont happen so its not going to happen.

[calvino]

the US 27

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by 325 Baller

Well its a easy 1k but id only do it if we went to a real track and that wont happen so its not going to happen.

why only track? cars like M6, you better damn well know how to drive it correctly. cars like honda civic Si, it is very easy to drive. with amature driving skills, only advantage you are going to have at the track is the straight way.

[325 Baller]

Track as in drag strip. Its called Moroso Moto Park. I dont street race, so id only do it at a drag stip because it wouldnt be on a real car track like Leguna Seca, because I dont even know if we have one of those/ I dont know how to track a car.

[Kev]

Originally Posted by 325 Baller

Track as in drag strip. Its called Moroso Moto Park. I dont street race, so id only do it at a drag stip because it wouldnt be on a real car track like Leguna Seca, because I dont even know if we have one of those/ I dont know how to track a car.

tracking a vert is a bad idea anyways

[2e9x's]

I bought an 07 Si to drive while I wait for my ED in July. It is NOT fast in a straight line. For the life of me I can't figure out why people drag race this car. Out of the box the Si (with good pads and brake fluid) is very competent on a track. Depending on the track, the M6 would be much faster and better on a road course, especially after a few laps when the Civic's stock brakes would be totally gone. But how fast a car goes on a track usually comes down to the driver. At my 2 track days with the Civic I passed many cars that are much faster than the Civic, but were being driven by people who were unable/unwilling to push their cars that hard.

One of the main limiting factors for the Si in a drag race is fwd...even stock it is nearly impossible to get power to the ground from a stop. So with just more power and no suspension and tires I seriously doubt that the Si you described would actually be that much quicker than stock. Plus the Si has a 2,000 rpm power band (6,000-8,000) as opposed to the M6 which has a much broader power band.

But I agree with another poster...in the end it is still a Civic that you beat.

[NaTuReB0Y]

Anyone want to race against my Honda Fit Sport........I got 105hp!

[325 Baller]

I never said I was going to brag about beating a civic? I just asked how the race would be because I thought it would be alot closer then what all my friends are telling me/ you guys are telling me. To be honest, I have no clue what a 75 shot of NOS does HP/Time wise to a car, so I was going on a guess to think he would be able to catch up/ make it close.

[T Bone]

Originally Posted by White05X3

I bought an 07 Si to drive while I wait for my ED in July. It is NOT fast in a straight line. For the life of me I can't figure out why people drag race this car. Out of the box the Si (with good pads and brake fluid) is very competent on a track. Depending on the track, the M6 would be much faster and better on a road course, especially after a few laps when the Civic's stock brakes would be totally gone. But how fast a car goes on a track usually comes down to the driver. At my 2 track days with the Civic I passed many cars that are much faster than the Civic, but were being driven by people who were unable/unwilling to push their cars that hard.

One of the main limiting factors for the Si in a drag race is fwd...even stock it is nearly impossible to get power to the ground from a stop. So with just more power and no suspension and tires I seriously doubt that the Si you described would actually be that much quicker than stock. Plus the Si has a 2,000 rpm power band (6,000-8,000) as opposed to the M6 which has a much broader power band.

But I agree with another poster...in the end it is still a Civic that you beat.

Finally some logic!!

The other limiting factor for the Si is it is a 4 banger. NOS alone is not going to give the power a 4 banger needs.

To get a Civic into the speeds to beat the M6, the Civic needs a big honking turbo.

So a warning to M6 owners, if you see a Civic with big drag slicks and big circular hole in the bumper cap where you see impeller blades.....be worried.....

[murellus]

civic kill thread

[aapriadi]

forget it...just tell him this: yeah your SI is faster and better than the m6
thats what every ricer wants to hear anyway...save yourself the time, money and energy...i dont even think your friend will have a grand ready anyway, not unless he sells his car

[ward]

Originally Posted by Kev

tracking a vert is a bad idea anyways

no it's not, it's actually pretty fun

as long as you have roll protection there's no issue, plus you shouldn't roll your car if you can avoid it

[2e9x's]

Originally Posted by 325 Baller;

I never said I was going to brag about beating a civic? I just asked how the race would be because I thought it would be alot closer then what all my friends are telling me/ you guys are telling me. To be honest, I have no clue what a 75 shot of NOS does HP/Time wise to a car, so I was going on a guess to think he would be able to catch up/ make it close.

The problem with bench racing (which is what is happening in this thread) is that it is all theoretical. If I was to bench race my Civic Si against a Cayman S, the Civic would lose. However...see

Is the Civic faster than a Cayman S? NO WAY. Is a Civic faster than a M6? NO WAY. Who would win in a race? It could very well come down to the respective drivers!

Really, neither the Civic nor the M6 are intended to drag race. Try this...agree to the race (under safe, legal conditions only), but make the race starting from 100 up to V max. No amount of nitrous or intake is going to help the Civic enough. My personal experience with the Civic on a high speed track (Willow Springs International Raceway) is that it is just geared wrong for the high end. 4th runs out at about 102 and then 5th sends the revs too far from the power peak. Honda geared the car to get out of the hole decently with a motor with no low end. Remember...that car may have 197 hp, but it only has 138 lb/ft torque, and that peak is around 6,100 RPM. I imagine that drag racing the Civic requires unbelievable talent...too few RPM's and the car bogs. Too many and the front tires go up in smoke. I suspect the gap between too many and too few is pretty narrow. I personally have never tried it because I don't see the point of drag racing.