[///d]

Originally Posted by ASAP

what about sending another remote controlled sub? one with cameras, sonar etc?

They have multiple sonar bouys deployed that have a range of 13,000ft. Issue is, if it was a systems failure, if there is nothing to create noise there is nothing for sonar to pick up.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by erickonphoenix

I have two theories heavily influenced by four 8% IPAs.

1. The sub slipped through an underwater time portal and jumped back to 1912.

2. The sub is trapped in the clutches of the ghost of Jack Dawson.

You think Leonardo Dicaprio is involved?

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by erickonphoenix

I have two theories heavily influenced by four 8% IPAs.

1. The sub slipped through an underwater time portal and jumped back to 1912.

2. The sub is trapped in the clutches of the ghost of Jack Dawson.

Originally Posted by ASAP

You think Leonardo Dicaprio is involved?

I'm more intrigued by his theories being influenced by IPAs at 8:00 am.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

wait people really paid for this shit, and now gunna die?

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by ASAP

what about sending another remote controlled sub? one with cameras, sonar etc?

Travel time over the ocean for any possible underwater rescue vehicle that might be available greatly exceeds the amount of oxygen on-board.

I'm curious if the "pilot" slash CEO had a ship's master (captain's) license to carry passengers in a boat?????

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Travel time over the ocean for any possible underwater rescue vehicle that might be available greatly exceeds the amount of oxygen on-board.

I'm curious if the "pilot" slash CEO had a ship's master (captain's) license to carry passengers in a boat?????

apparently this whole company is a gigantic mess...

the sub is like a cheap tube with windows that don't meet the pressure depth requirements because the CEO said it wasn't necessary... and it's controlled by a $30 Logitech controller

[bagekko]

Question is will the next rich peoples sightseeing tour to see the previous failed one find it or suffer the same fate....

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

wait people really paid for this shit, and now gunna die?

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by bagekko

Question is will the next rich peoples sightseeing tour to see the previous failed one find it or suffer the same fate....

Probably not, because international maritime regulations will be revised to close whatever loophole(s) this tourist submarine was operating under.....

[///d]

Originally Posted by ASAP

apparently this whole company is a gigantic mess...

the sub is like a cheap tube with windows that don't meet the pressure depth requirements because the CEO said it wasn't necessary... and it's controlled by a $30 Logitech controller

Eh, I don't think the controller is really anything worth noting. You'd be surprised how many high value, high cost, high tech things are controlled by a cheap off the shelf controller, and its common to see simple xbox or playstation controllers because, well, they work and aren't over-complicated. They are just buttons, switches, and axis that send a signal.

I did see that this company was under scrutiny not long ago about how deep their subs can safely go. After reading some about the company I suspect this was the result of complacency and arrogance. Complacency with not being thorough with maintenance checks and safety equipment, and arrogance with thinking they can push the boundaries and get away with it.

[Artemis]

Well...

See section "III. Factual Background" (see 4-22 on pages 9-12).

18-22:


Document: gov.uscourts.wawd.262471.7.0.pdf

Source:

• article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic...afety-lawsuit/
• web link: https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...262471.7.0.pdf

That was 2018. No info as to what happened in the meantime.

Compare with the 1986 'Challenger' space shuttle tragedy:

"Remembering Roger Boisjoly: He Tried To Stop Shuttle Challenger Launch" (Feb 6, 2012):
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...llenger-launch

[///d]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Well...

cliff notes? Won't open on my mobile

[///d]

Originally Posted by nerdogray

If banging was heard, why can't they "answer back?" Surely they can generate a loud enough noise that will propagate all directions to hopefully trigger another round so they can zero in? It would also provide significant trauma relief to know someone is looking if it's heard.

My understanding, and it may be wrong, but depending on the depth, and with being in a pressurized capsule, the human ear wouldn't pick up the vibrations (sound), at least not very easily. The sound wave won't easily transfer from the water through the hull and then to the ear. If a person was in the water they may hear a noise because the sound wave will transfer from the water directly to the ear drum, but even then it would depend on distance. Thats with the assumption systems are offline and they don't have sonar in the sub.

Again, thats how I understand it, I may be wrong, or it may be a bad way to explain it.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by ///d

cliff notes? Won't open on my mobile

Basically the "sub" was some tin can pos with all kinds of issues and components not rated for the depths they were going. When told this the CEO said fuck off with that negative nancy shit and fired the dude inspecting it.

So yeah... that shit imploded at the bottom of the ocean.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

can't imagine the convo those rich folk were having

[Tyga11]

The stepson is going crazy on twitter...lol

[Llarry]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

wait people really paid for this shit, and now gunna die?

Sooner or later, the same thing will happen with space tourism. NO ROOM FOR ERROR!

[e90335e36m3]

DOD, NSA, DARPA can find it but the technology is classified so they won’t.

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

DOD, NSA, DARPA can find it but the technology is classified so they won’t.

Interesting...why wouldn't they want to locate it?

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

Interesting...why wouldn't they want to locate it?

The risk of losing the technology is too great. As sad as it is, the risk is not worth the reward.

[Artemis]

"2 former OceanGate employees voiced safety concerns years ago about the hull of the now-missing vessel" (CNN - June 21, 2023):
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/21/u...ees/index.html

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by ASAP

what about sending another remote controlled sub? one with cameras, sonar etc?

Like I said earlier, it took 2 weeks to locate the Titanic (not a small object) using very high tech side scan sonar even knowing the general location of the wreck. It takes a couple of hours just to dive to the bottom. This is literally a needle in a very deep haystack.

[M_Six]

I'm not sold on the crushed soda can analogy for the sub. Doesn't really fit. Metal bends and warps. But that sub is carbon fiber. 4"-5" thick, I read. Carbon fiber shatters like glass. So if that sub suffered a pressure leak, it may have shattered into a million pieces or just broke into a few big pieces like a thick bottle. If something like the front window blew inside, it may have just instantly filled with water and not deformed at all. Sadly, the end result for the passengers is the same no matter how the hull broke.

I think if that CEO hadn't been on board, he'd be facing some serious jail time. Although apparently there was no hiding of that fact that the passengers would be risking death in several different ways. That's not the kind of paperwork you just skim over and sign.

I also read that the hatch was bolted shut from the outside. Not sure if it had a way to vent air from the outside, but if not, they could be bobbing on the surface and still run out of air.