[TheBingoBalls]

So I guess current BMWs are less annoying and buyers are finding less and less things to complain about, whether it's iDrive (still the best by a mile in my book) or overall quality. That's a win in my book.

[RCtennis3811]

Just curious why this is being posted as news now? The press release said this data came out on February 12, 2020. I think it's IQS that came out from JD Power this week.

[Blindside_137]

I can sure depend on BMW to make extra large kidney grilles

[Mavus]

The survey, released Wednesday, comes on the heels of widespread complaints about quality in the company's new Model Y, a hatchback version of the Model 3 sedan. Those complaints include unaligned body parts, seats not attached to the base, bumpers falling off in the rain, water leaks in the cabin, and door seals that allow dirt particles to get inside and coat the interior.

Also on Wednesday, Business Insider, quoting internal Tesla emails, revealed that Tesla may have knowingly installed defective cooling tubes prone to leakage in Model S sedans. The issue involves model years 2012 through at least 2016. The story noted that glycol coolant that comes into contact with a hot battery can result in fire. The Times has also reviewed internal Tesla emails that show Tesla employees discussing the tube leakage problem.

[Roch M4]

These numbers do not make sens for Genesis, Buick and Porsche because they don't sell a lot of cars, it's almost a niche market! Toyota and VW are the number one in the world in terms of sales and they well known for their reliability. BMW sell a lot more cars than Porsche, Buick and Genesis combined...They should weight their stats with a ratio of the total number of cars sold by each brand to make this chart reliable

[super51fan]

Originally Posted by Roch M4

These numbers do not make sens for Genesis, Buick and Porsche because they don't sell a lot of cars, it's almost a niche market! Toyota and VW are the number one in the world in terms of sales and they well known for their reliability. BMW sell a lot more cars than Porsche, Buick and Genesis combined...They should weight their stats with a ratio of the total number of cars sold by each brand to make this chart reliable

It's almost as if they should take a small subsets of cars, let's say 100, and find the average problems from each of those subsets

[GOLFFRR]

better then 9th

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by Roch M4

These numbers do not make sens for Genesis, Buick and Porsche because they don't sell a lot of cars, it's almost a niche market! Toyota and VW are the number one in the world in terms of sales and they well known for their reliability. BMW sell a lot more cars than Porsche, Buick and Genesis combined...They should weight their stats with a ratio of the total number of cars sold by each brand to make this chart reliable

Had a similar debate over tires with a buddy of mine.

I claimed DWS 06 best based on score and volume of miles and sales.

High performance all season

[Whyte_Diamonds]

Originally Posted by 530iDriver

I am far more surprised by VW being in the top 5.

Agreed. VW ruined my German car experience. I vowed never to buy another German car again. Went Japanese the next remaining vehicles then rolled the dice on the F80. Lol

[MachinesWithSouls]

We have complaints, to be sure. But this one time, I bought a Kia Stinger...


https://mikedambrosio.kinja.com/i-bo...-it-1829711640

[pz619]

Mahk disagrees with JD Powahs

[Desrste]

Originally Posted by pz619

Mahk disagrees with JD Powahs

Well now I know what I'm doing for the next three hours 🤦*♂️. Seriously thanks for sharing... love videos like these 👍👍.

[AUSf22]

BMW F series have been surprisingly more reliable than their E series before them.

[Andrae26]

Originally Posted by 530iDriver

I bet Tesla is way, way, way down at the bottom

Lol ��

[Roch M4]

[PostModernHero]

FAKE AWARD

[kerkiraios00]

I'm honestly shocked Subaru and Honda are that far down.. These are the best in reliability IMO and VW is that high up? Lol something's up

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by elitex

Ummmmm.... why is it different on JD power's website??? Am I missing something?

*** Nevermind, I see it's different survey.

This is the 2020 initial quality ranking. There other chart is the dependability brand rankings

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by oz555

Buick exists?!

It's a Chinese brand with Chinese cars.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by jstein55

Some of the new Genesis actually do the sport part well too. I was impressed last time I drove the G70 3.3TT with how good the handling was. Like Car and Driver said its 90% of the 3-Series for 75% of the price. A very good car for those who owned earlier Lexus IS or Infiniti G's since both brands have yet to make a compelling sports sedan recently. Ever since Albert Biernmann (ex-head of M division) joined the Hyundai group, there products have been very good.

That maybe it but forget about carrying anyone in the back seat of the G70, unless they have no legs.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by 335xi Beast

^ We almost pulled the trigger on the 3.3 T Sport. Pretty solid car actually. Suspension felt darn good and acceleration was nice. BUT we got the Palisade Limited! Seats are supreme! Softer and more comfy than any other 5 series we had. Impressed so but the only gripe for me is Wind noise and suspension isn't quite up to par. Kinda loud and not nearly as substantial a bmw or range rover naturally. The creature features are endless with tons of tech. Best value by far!

Hope it remains troublefree.

It's KIA counterpart has logged a lot of complaints however...

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by jstein55

I'd still take one over a G20, I rarely carry people in the backseat and have a GLC for that, and I'm in the front seat anyways so I don't care about how tight it is. I had an E36 and E46 sedan, tight backseats aren't a big deal for me.

Seen and driven the G70 3.3T. Not as impressed as you were. Found the interior to be a bit ran of the mill and the dashboard reeks Hyundai Sonata right down to the infotainment system. Decent car but probably a far better buy used after the first year depreciation (35-40%) has hit the first owner.

Good effort. I am sure the next gen will be far better. The G70 still six years behind the G20.

And for me a sedan has to offer decent back seat accommodations. With 2 very tall kids is a must.

Close but no cigar. I would take a G20 M340i over the G70 3.3T twice daily and four times on Sunday