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Dude just shut the fuck up.
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Uh huh.
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Would you like a chair? You don't seem to have a leg to stand on anymore. You've gone from articulating your views to these one-liners and non-sequitors. If you don't have anything else constructive to say on the topic, it's perfectly okay to stop posting. Other posters on your side of the argument have made some good points and might be better suited to carrying the torch from here on.
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08-21-2008, 01:18 AM | #27 |
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What a fail. Arguing about Bangle's designs and driving his most important achievement. Lets not take a look at BMW sales figures before and after Bangle. That just might be too much for you.
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08-21-2008, 01:51 AM | #28 | |
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I'll be keeping the Z4MC, whatever its place in history. I just plain like the car. |
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08-21-2008, 04:50 AM | #32 |
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Not really.
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By the way, if I come off slightly spirited, it's because car design is my passion. I find Lazlo's remarks about Bangle to be completely ridiculous, hence my reactions. Can't help it, just the way I am.
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I'm an industrial designer myself and I can see that his remarks are weak at best. Until you actually have to work and design something from the inside, you'll never know how difficult / impressive what Bangle did. When I was working at Motorola I was designing phone 10 years ahead of when they were due to market. I bet at the time if they were released people would have hated them as well.
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looks like the X6 came from the X Coupe concept back in 1996? Wow!
I guess for designers/artists, it not always about the end product. The X Coupe shown didn't look good at all, but seemed like Bangle liked it, because it contained a great idea. Art is an evolution, a process, it's the idea within art that truly matters, and it is because of the idea drives the evolution of designs into something that expresses it better... just my 2 cents |
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I think the two biggest mistakes that are made when discussing Bangle is either people bash the direction of BMW design (recently) to the point of cliché or they give him too much credit. Let's not forget there is a small army of talented designers that are behind him, you do have to credit him for making the tough executive decisions.
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Some of you guys are quite misinformed about the cars Chris Bangle has designed.
For example, I have seen a couple of posts regarding The E46 vs. Bangle's E90 design... Uuhhhhh.. Chris Bangle designed the E46 too. Also some criticism towards the new 7 series design..... Uuhhhh.. Chris Bangle didn't design the new 7, Adrian Van Hooydonk did. |
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while bangle pissed off many BMW loyalists, his design attracted many more enthusiasts
but how many loyalists turned against bmw because of the designs? i am not one. |
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for those that think we are not informed, or for those that would like to be more informed, here is an article on Bangle design...you decide if he is genius or anticrist
http://www.motortrend.com/features/c...ief/index.html |
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As for the article, I wasn't surprised they mentioned Mays, as he's one of Bangle's rivals (they went to the same design school) and harshest critic. Mays should be the household name that Bangle is, but has never been given the free rein that Bangle got from BMW. Mays headed up the original TT and set the direction for the previous Audi range before going to Ford and he's much more into rounded, organic shapes and understated luxury. I'm tempted to get an Audi A4 cab to go with my Z4 coupe, as the two cars run the gamut of car design from... a to z. |
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