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Originally Posted by bobbo

I like my 135i and I am sticking to it. The cars that would get me out of my 135i are Audi R8, Mk2 TTS, GTR or Lotus Elise.

To be fair I am going to compare a stock G37 vs. stock 135i. G37 is still prettier but 135i grows on you and a hellvu rarer. 135i hands down for the engine tune, better brakes, lower weight, more spacious rear seat, If you admire Ryan Seacrest ;-) then G37 without a doubt.

To be honest, that 1er is gonna remain ugly as fuhh until the bumpers, rockers, wheels and amber pieces in the headlights are replaced.

[SteelTorque]

I think the G37 is ugly as hell and bloated.

The 135 is kinda cute, and you can mod the crap out of it. Even stock for stock there is no competition.

[BMW F22]

Performance & handling= 135i hands down
Look wise- G37

[ChaneRZ]

i'd pick the g37.

[retrodrive]

G37 looks to Japanese to me. If you are planning to do some mods to a 135, get that. they do not look bad when modified.

[gshb]

Originally Posted by ///Mantis

135 is super fucking ugly, unbelievably ugly like WOW what the fuck they thinking....

G37 is slow as dog, but hey, got enough toys to keep you happy. it looks good too, every time u approach it u'll smile

LOL +1

but BMW managed to do worse with the X6. that is beyond WTF...

id pick the G37. its not THAT slow...and BMW isnt going to make it easy to chip the N54.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by bigpimper4lif

German engineering compared to Japanese.... uhhhhhh lol

Uhhhhh what? Some of the greatest cars of all time have come from Japan.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Certain colors make the 135 look good. Black, white....yeah thats it. Anything else, and you better have a great imagination to be able to make it look good.

[Spec 1]

As others have said, if I was purchasing this as strictly a track vehicle, I'd take the 135i. Performance-wise I think it would be fun to drive. As far as if I used it as a daily driver or... hell, even a weekend driver, I'd pick the G37S. Much easier on the eyes and probably not far enough behind to tell the performance difference while driving on the street.

Agreed, the 1 series = yuck.

[BMdblU]

135 just based on driving dynamics

[ages944]

"The engine sounds like a coffee grinder..." - Car & Driver

Good effort on Nissan's part, but I'll take the german.

[TheAcAvenger]

I love the 135i from the front and even like it from the the front 3/4....

but when I was behind one the other day... I almost vomited. One of the ugliest rears of any car. Undoubtebly the ugliest rear bmw has ever come up with.

no offense to you 135iers on the board though. you're still good people.

[lib]

Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

no offense to you 135iers on the board though. you're still good people.

It's cool. I used to have the same reaction when I saw an e92 rear end.

It took at least a year to finally get used to it.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by lib

It's cool. I used to have the same reaction when I saw an e92 rear end.

It took at least a year to finally get used to it.

Please don't start a war. We could have a field day talking about the E82.

[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by TMNT

If ya like ugly cars....go with the 135i. While the G37 ended up to be a complete disappointment to me....the 135i was doomed from the begining.

You must drive an ugly car than (E46) cause the 1 series is only based on a modernized e46...

[lib]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Please don't start a war. We could have a field day talking about the E82.

I wasn't trying to start anything

I like the e92, it simply took me a while to get used to it. The e82 is the same way for a lot of people - they may not like it at first but it slowly grows on them.

[picus]

How about drive them? Ugliness aside, I bet the drive is worlds apart. Interesting that they mention Infinit's 5.1s to 60 is ambitious, while the BMWs 5.1s to 60 is more likely conservative.

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Originally Posted by lib

I wasn't trying to start anything

I like the e92, it simply took me a while to get used to it. The e82 is the same way for a lot of people - they may not like it at first but it slowly grows on them.

Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but from what I recall, the majority of people on this board (and in general) seemed to fall in love with the e92 design within its official unveiling.

It's been a couple months since the e82's unveiling and I know that many, including myself, have yet to warm up to its design.

I love the e81 hatch, but I'm just not feeling the e82/3. That's not to say that others can't like it, but it's definitely an unusual design.

[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but from what I recall, the majority of people on this board (and in general) seemed to fall in love with the e92 design within its official unveiling.

It's been a couple months since the e82's unveiling and I know that many, including myself, have yet to warm up to its design.

I love the e81 hatch, but I'm just not feeling the e82/3. That's not to say that others can't like it, but it's definitely an unusual design.

your right. I hated the e92 in pictures... I now own a 335i, its beautiful. I hated the Z4m in pitures cause it looked smooshed. I now own one. I hated the 1 series in pictures.. saw it in person, and I now own one

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Originally Posted by Artz 330

You must drive an ugly car than (E46) cause the 1 series is only based on a modernized e46...

Umm, sure, it definitely has some design elements borrowed from the e46, like the overall styling of the grille, to the lower bumper (which is similar to an e46 ZHP, not the one in these pics), and even somewhat in the taillights.

However, this transition hardly went well, as flame surfacing needs long, broad surfaces in order to work effectively.

The pics you included show how low, wide, and mean the e46 looks. The headlights are squinty and aggressive; the bumper functional and simple. The tail is clean, with perfectly shaped taillights and a crisp trunk design. The lines are bold along the sides, and the profile is just about flawless.

The e82 looks like (in my completely honest and frank opinion) a retarded fish from the front. It ditches the e46's masculine lines for curvy, bubbly sculpting instead. The headlights are oversized in relative to the rest of the car, and they always seem surprised no matter what angle they're viewed from. The bumper is too curvy, and almost makes it look like it's a smiling catfish or something. When viewed head-on, the brake ducts look too small, the fenders too skinny, and the hood too non-descript. The character line is too high, and the greenhouse is too small. Because the character line is so high, the sides look fat, and the swage line running at the bottom of the doors gives it a dragging-its-belly-along-the-ground look which is not very flattering. The line in the rockers leads to absolutely nothing, and I don't think there's much BMW can do to help it. The tail is the worst part, given the blobular taillight design, with its cheap looking detailing, and of course the multitude of unresolved lines near the trunklid. Its only saving grace is the faux diffuser.

*Note that this is entirely my own opinion. Don't take offense to it if you own an e82.

[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

Umm, sure, it definitely has some design elements borrowed from the e46, like the overall styling of the grille, to the lower bumper (which is similar to an e46 ZHP, not the one in these pics), and even somewhat in the taillights.

However, this transition hardly went well, as flame surfacing needs long, broad surfaces in order to work effectively.

The pics you included show how low, wide, and mean the e46 looks. The headlights are squinty and aggressive; the bumper functional and simple. The tail is clean, with perfectly shaped taillights and a crisp trunk design. The lines are bold along the sides, and the profile is just about flawless.

The e82 looks like (in my completely honest and frank opinion) a retarded fish from the front. It ditches the e46's masculine lines for curvy, bubbly sculpting instead. The headlights are oversized in relative to the rest of the car, and they always seem surprised no matter what angle they're viewed from. The bumper is too curvy, and almost makes it look like it's a smiling catfish or something. When viewed head-on, the brake ducts look too small, the fenders too skinny, and the hood too non-descript. The character line is too high, and the greenhouse is too small. Because the character line is so high, the sides look fat, and the swage line running at the bottom of the doors gives it a dragging-its-belly-along-the-ground look which is not very flattering. The line in the rockers leads to absolutely nothing, and I don't think there's much BMW can do to help it. The tail is the worst part, given the blobular taillight design, with its cheap looking detailing, and of course the multitude of unresolved lines near the trunklid. Its only saving grace is the faux diffuser.

*Note that this is entirely my own opinion. Don't take offense to it if you own an e82.

Non taken, I had a 330ci too. But I think the 1 looks a bit better. But than again the E46 looks dated. Just like when the E46 replaced the E36.

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This is very true, it does look dated.^

If the e92 was only a bit smaller, it could be a true successor. By the way I want your M Coupe.